(April 11, 2016 at 3:13 pm)abaris Wrote:

(April 11, 2016 at 2:51 pm)Godschild Wrote: Hitler became a German citizen by being appointed to a position in Brunswick by the Nazi party, Hitler refused to become a citizen by standing in line like all others did. Hitler was an egomaniac from the start. Like everything else be bullied his way in.

In short, he was naturalized in 1932, after being stateless for almost a decade. He left Austria in 1913, fought in a Bavarian regiment and was on an Austrian watchlist after founding the NSDAP.

But all of this doesn't really matter in this context. What matters is his religiosity. I always argue that it is as stupid to call him an atheist as it is to call him a christian, just because he didn't leave the Catholic church till his death. His private conversations, recorded by Henry Picker, show he wasn't an atheist. His writings do too. He had some kind of spirituality, endlessly talking about providence.

 He may not have been an atheist, because he was an evil man doesn't make him an atheist but, it pretty much eliminates him being a Christian.

GC

(April 11, 2016 at 7:58 pm)Godschild Wrote:  He may not have been an atheist, because he was an evil man doesn't make him an atheist but, it pretty much eliminates him being a Christian.

GC

Yeah, but no rest for the wicked. Look up Franz Stangl.

(April 11, 2016 at 3:50 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:

(April 11, 2016 at 3:00 pm)Godschild Wrote: I don't worship the Bible, I worship God and you know squat about the Bible. All you care about is your hatred for God and His people. It's obvious what the Bible teaches and the reasonable part of society you don't hold with, you would rather try and run people down than hold any kind of honor for yourself or others.

GC

You can't hate something that doesn't exist.  I have a lot of xtian friends who do not try to preach at me, and live their lives quietly.  I don't hate them either.  The rest of your statement is just judgmental character assassination of someone you've never met - which is the type of behavior that I expect of most of the theists here.  They've judged me just by coming to this forum, so I get to make fun of the delusion that enslaved me for over 40 years.

 I know for a fact God exists, why didn't you find this out in your 40 years in the church. I'm not preaching at you, you were the one who jumped in on this conversation. I'm calling it like I see it. As far as coming to this forums to judge you, I've been here much longer than you have.

GC

(April 11, 2016 at 8:06 pm)Godschild Wrote:  I know for a fact God exists, why didn't you find this out in your 40 years in the church. I'm not preaching at you, you were the one who jumped in on this conversation. I'm calling it like I see it. As far as coming to this forums to judge you, I've been here much longer than you have.

GC

Fact is, you're judging everyone not conforming to your notion of god. And that's got nothing to do with being here longer. Drippy does that too, and I always name you as a first class advertisment for atheism, since both of you try to advertise a despicable god. Business as usual with evangelicals and bible literalists, I would say.

And no, I'm not judging every christian by your sorry display. Only on an individual level, since there are quite a number of other theists not falling into that category.

(April 11, 2016 at 7:58 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(April 11, 2016 at 3:13 pm)abaris Wrote: In short, he was naturalized in 1932, after being stateless for almost a decade. He left Austria in 1913, fought in a Bavarian regiment and was on an Austrian watchlist after founding the NSDAP.

But all of this doesn't really matter in this context. What matters is his religiosity. I always argue that it is as stupid to call him an atheist as it is to call him a christian, just because he didn't leave the Catholic church till his death. His private conversations, recorded by Henry Picker, show he wasn't an atheist. His writings do too. He had some kind of spirituality, endlessly talking about providence.

 He may not have been an atheist, because he was an evil man doesn't make him an atheist but, it pretty much eliminates him being a Christian.

GC

Tell that shit to Cardinal Torquemada.

(April 11, 2016 at 7:58 pm)Godschild Wrote: He may not have been an atheist, because he was an evil man doesn't make him an atheist but, it pretty much eliminates him being a Christian.

Vlad the Impaler to all that.

Haven't read through the entire thread but am I correct in assuming this is a "no true Scotsman" fallacy thread?

Also why point out Hitler when you have the Pagan persecutions, Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Witch burning... there's so much history of crap done in christ's name. What's it matter if one really evil bastard was or wasn't? He was a theist. History is filled with blood in the name of theism.

(April 11, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Goosebump Wrote: Haven't read through the entire thread but am I correct in assuming this is a "no true Scotsman" fallacy thread?

Also why point out Hitler when you have the Pagan persecutions, Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Witch burning... there's so much history of crap done in christ's name. What's it matter if one really evil bastard was or wasn't? He was a theist. History is filled with blood in the name of theism.

NTS you betcha. The astounding proposition that none of them were True Christians™, despite their utterly solid belief in their own righteousness (sound familiar?), is probably the most amazing part of the evangelical Christian mindset, to me.