(April 14, 2016 at 6:35 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote:

JCatholic_Lady Wrote: Wrote:No, I'll call them whatever they want me to call them. I don't care.

That's fine henny, free speech and all that jazz. Just don't complain if people call you all kinds of stuff for that.

Um, what?

(April 14, 2016 at 6:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(April 14, 2016 at 6:35 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: That's fine henny, free speech and all that jazz. Just don't complain if people call you all kinds of stuff for that.

Um, what?

See above. I misread what you had wrote, apologies

By the way, this is the type of stuff I'm referring to. Fakes who might falsely claim transgenderism and peep into women's bathrooms and lockerrooms.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/...34761.html

(April 14, 2016 at 6:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: By the way, this is the type of stuff I'm referring to. Fakes who might falsely claim transgenderism and peep into women's bathrooms and lockerrooms.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/...34761.html

It's not the same thing. The man was not claiming to be trans. He was just trying to blend in well enough to get his jollies. He'd have done it bathroom law or no.

It took you 75 pages into this discussion to find an instance of this happening, which speaks to the irregularity that it happens.

And by the same token, do you think there has never in the history of public toilets, been a biological woman who has done this? Like my friend from uni used to say; if you can think it, someone's done it.

But in this case, I'll say this. I've never understood why bathroom stalls have those massive gaps both underneath and above the doors anyway. It invites pervness. I think the doors and the dividers should go straight from the floor to the ceiling.

The man in that news article is a pervert and should be arrested, I'm not defending it, but to act like this is normal behaviour for men, or that it's so impossible that a woman could do it, is silly. The only way you're going to 100% guarantee you'll never get perved on in the toilets is to not go in public. That's true regardless of wether trans people are allowed into your toilets or not. And that guy you posted entered a womens' bathroom despite it probably being illegal where he was, so legal or not, pervs will be pervs. Sad reality of the world we live in.

(April 14, 2016 at 6:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: By the way, this is the type of stuff I'm referring to. Fakes who might falsely claim transgenderism and peep into women's bathrooms and lockerrooms.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/...34761.html

Anyone could do that without having to dress up. Any man could sneak into a locker room or public bathroom if he hangs out long enough at the right place, and picks the most opportune time. A sex offender will find a way to offend no matter what rules or laws are in place.

(April 14, 2016 at 6:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: By the way, this is the type of stuff I'm referring to. Fakes who might falsely claim transgenderism and peep into women's bathrooms and lockerrooms.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/...34761.html

UGGGGGGG,,,,,,, "Might" does not equal majority. Again a bathroom has no magic powers when it comes to sexual assault, you are most likely going to get assaulted elsewhere, and more likely by someone you know or someone in your neighborhood or a co worker, someone who knows your habits and or is in a position of trust or gives the image of a position of trust. 

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr...cible-rape

FBI article Wrote: There were an estimated 83,425 forcible rapes reported to law enforcement in 2011.  

That was 5 years ago and I don't think that has gone down drastically in 5 years. Now are you going to tell me the majority of that 83k were all guys trying to get into bathrooms?


A high traffic bathroom is the least likely place a perp is going to look for a victim. Rapists are not looking for a particular room, they are looking for opportunity and isolation of the victim, the room has no magic power.

(April 14, 2016 at 7:06 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: It took you 75 pages into this discussion to find an instance of this happening, which speaks to the irregularity that it happens.

I wasn't even looking. I happened to see it on my facebook news feed just now. I'm sure this isn't the first time it has happened and won't be the last, and I'm sure there are plenty more cases that went unnoticed. And who knows? Maybe this sort of criminal behavior will become more popular if it becomes that much easier to pull off. That's the problem.  

Quote:The man in that news article is a pervert and should be arrested, I'm not defending it, but to act like this is normal behaviour for men, or that it's so impossible that a woman could do it, is silly. The only way you're going to 100% guarantee you'll never get perved on in the toilets is to not go in public. That's true regardless of wether trans people are allowed into your toilets or not. And that guy you posted entered a womens' bathroom despite it probably being illegal where he was, so legal or not, pervs will be pervs. Sad reality of the world we live in.

I never "acted like this was normal behavior for men." And of course this can still happen despite it being illegal for physical males to go into women's bathrooms and lockerrooms. But making it legal just seems like it'll be that much easier to pull it off. If someone notices there is man dressed as a woman in the lady's room, they'll report it. But if anyone is allowed to go into any restroom so long as they claim transgenderism, it'll be much easier for the pervs to get away with it. If we draw the line at sex change, the transperson going in will actually look like a woman, rather than just look like a man in woman's clothing. That way it'll be much easier to tell apart the real trans verses the perv.

Again, I'm not saying this is the sole reason why there needs to be a line and a 3rd bathroom for those who don't quite reach it yet. But it is definitely something that should be considered as a concern, and when we're dealing with this sort of thing, I think it wise to er on the side of caution.

But you are aware of the difference between crossdressers and transgender people?

I'm not so sure about that, reading your comments.