Transexuals

[Catholic_Lady]

No, I'll call them whatever they want me to call them. I don't care.

That's fine henny, free speech and all that jazz. Just don't complain if people call you all kinds of stuff for that.

Um, what?

[Regina]

That's fine henny, free speech and all that jazz. Just don't complain if people call you all kinds of stuff for that.

Um, what?

See above. I misread what you had wrote, apologies

[Catholic_Lady]

[BlackBird]

[Regina]

It took you 75 pages into this discussion to find an instance of this happening, which speaks to the irregularity that it happens.

And by the same token, do you think there has never in the history of public toilets, been a biological woman who has done this? Like my friend from uni used to say; if you can think it, someone's done it.

But in this case, I'll say this. I've never understood why bathroom stalls have those massive gaps both underneath and above the doors anyway. It invites pervness. I think the doors and the dividers should go straight from the floor to the ceiling.

The man in that news article is a pervert and should be arrested, I'm not defending it, but to act like this is normal behaviour for men, or that it's so impossible that a woman could do it, is silly. The only way you're going to 100% guarantee you'll never get perved on in the toilets is to not go in public. That's true regardless of wether trans people are allowed into your toilets or not. And that guy you posted entered a womens' bathroom despite it probably being illegal where he was, so legal or not, pervs will be pervs. Sad reality of the world we live in.

[LadyForCamus]

[Jackie]

[Catholic_Lady]

It took you 75 pages into this discussion to find an instance of this happening, which speaks to the irregularity that it happens.

I wasn't even looking. I happened to see it on my facebook news feed just now. I'm sure this isn't the first time it has happened and won't be the last, and I'm sure there are plenty more cases that went unnoticed. And who knows? Maybe this sort of criminal behavior will become more popular if it becomes that much easier to pull off. That's the problem.  

The man in that news article is a pervert and should be arrested, I'm not defending it, but to act like this is normal behaviour for men, or that it's so impossible that a woman could do it, is silly. The only way you're going to 100% guarantee you'll never get perved on in the toilets is to not go in public. That's true regardless of wether trans people are allowed into your toilets or not. And that guy you posted entered a womens' bathroom despite it probably being illegal where he was, so legal or not, pervs will be pervs. Sad reality of the world we live in.

I never "acted like this was normal behavior for men." And of course this can still happen despite it being illegal for physical males to go into women's bathrooms and lockerrooms. But making it legal just seems like it'll be that much easier to pull it off. If someone notices there is man dressed as a woman in the lady's room, they'll report it. But if anyone is allowed to go into any restroom so long as they claim transgenderism, it'll be much easier for the pervs to get away with it. If we draw the line at sex change, the transperson going in will actually look like a woman, rather than just look like a man in woman's clothing. That way it'll be much easier to tell apart the real trans verses the perv.

[Catholic_Lady]

Again, I'm not saying this is the sole reason why there needs to be a line and a 3rd bathroom for those who don't quite reach it yet. But it is definitely something that should be considered as a concern, and when we're dealing with this sort of thing, I think it wise to er on the side of caution.

[abaris]

But you are aware of the difference between crossdressers and transgender people?

I'm not so sure about that, reading your comments.