I really don't get why millions of Americans voted for Clinton. She defied "Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information" (along with many other laws relating to prior scandals) and she will be charged under the Espionage Act. If the FBI doesn't do what it's supposed to do, Republicans have friends in the FBI - they can leak a mass of damaging information to deny the Clinton the Oval Office. And, let's not forget, Cruz's wife worked for Goldman Sachs - so she could leak Clinton's speeches to the bank - damaging Clinton even further. Clinton is a ticking time bomb and she should have been in jail a long time ago.

Bil Clinton played golf with Trump. The Clinton's went to Trump's wedding. Trump donated to the Clinton Foundation. Trump donated to Hilary's senate campaign. Clinton will lose to Trump. The Clinton's love Trump really.

If Fucking FOX gets it, why can't you?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-lega...k-the-law/

Quote:Fox News Legal Analysts: Hillary Clinton Didn’t Break the Law

Also from Fox News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP_zQ1M_gwQ

And there you have it, folks. If Mini sees it on tv it must be true.

Woah


My first ever Tibbers kudos, and 3 in one day

I shall treasure this moment

Haha, he kudosed you again just before.

Hehe. I've been here since the beginning and I only have like 15 kudos from Tibbers or something. So just think of every Tibbers Kudos as like a gold medal

Hammy

(May 5, 2016 at 3:17 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Christ all-fucking mighty...can't you understand that the way the democrats award delegates is ruining him?  After "winning" ( maybe you'd prefer the term Pyrrhic victory without quotes?) he is in worse shape than before because he did not win by a big enough margin to significantly impact the delegate race.

My point, Min, is that if he'd lost, he'd be in an even worse position than he is now. So your point is, well, pointless.

He was expected to lose by 7 points. That would have meant that Clinton would have gained more delegates than him, and the gap between him and her would be larger than before. Now, it's smaller. This was a victory that closed the gap slightly between him and Clinton. Plus, if he can turn a predicted 7 point loss into a 5 point win, there's hope for future primaries.

Quote:A couple of more such victories and he'll be mathematically eliminated.

As I said before, at this stage even if Clinton won half the delegates remaining, she wouldn't have the magic number. It's possible, but I doubt that Sanders will be mathematically eliminated until the actual convention. The DNC nominee will be decided by the superdelegates.

Quote:The choice will be Clinton or Trump.  And if it is Trump I don't want to hear any fucking whining from the so-called progressives.

This. This attitude is just bullshit. People have a right to complain if they are unhappy, if they feel that the wrong person was elected. People who vote for the 2nd place candidate don't some magic right to be the only ones allowed to complain.

Anyone who thinks that a third party voter is somehow responsible for, or doesn't have the right to complain about a Democrat or Republican who is elected, is quite frankly, a bully.

People should ignore people like Min who insist everyone vote for the lesser of two evils, because if we do that, the electoral system in this country (which I think most people will agree is pretty broken) will never get changed. People should vote for who they believe will make a better President, and if that's a third party candidate, go vote for them, and hold your head high afterwards knowing that you expressed your opinion at the polls, rather than succumb to the pressure of a broken system.

(May 5, 2016 at 4:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: If Fucking FOX gets it, why can't you?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-lega...k-the-law/

Quote:Fox News Legal Analysts: Hillary Clinton Didn’t Break the Law

Date of article: March 4th, 2015

*slow clap*

Thanks for the info Min, now if you'd kindly join us in 2016 you can have a gaze over all the articles that have been written since then which reveal quite a number of irregularities, and potential crimes committed by Clinton regarding her server, like the fact everything (including government emails) was backed up to a third party, that classified information was more likely than not sent through the server, that the server didn't have proper security on it, that a hacker has claimed he breached the server itself and saw multiple connections on it from around the world.

I have a feeling this election might have the most third party voters in American history. On both sides.

And I agree with Tibbers about the bully thing. Why should anyone think they have a right to pressure people into voting for anyone besides whoever they think is the best choice? It's this stupid attitude that keeps us stuck with the shitty two party system we have. I'd really be excited to see half the popular vote go to third party candidates. I'm sick of republicans and democrats.

(May 5, 2016 at 3:37 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: I really don't get why millions of Americans voted for Clinton.

The answer's pretty simply. Money. The democ-rats diverted funds to push her instead of Bernie right from the get go. She's establishment, so probably they hope to have a bigger chance of winning with yet another corporate seen before shill. Even if they may not be as corporate driven as the Repubs, they still lick corporate boot. Because they haven't got the guts to push a real liberal agenda or because their corporate bed is as cozy as the republican one.

Money buys tv presence, ads, everything you need in an election. Most people don't look any further than their tv. Especially in a primary, when the media doesn't report on you anyway. Oh, they did report on Bernie. In a negative way, mostly, since the media is again corporate, owned by a very few.