(May 27, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: Social security programmes rarely run out of funds since Reichskansellor von Bismarck introduced the idea in the 1880's, mainly because in most countries the employment level is high enough to keep money coming into the system.

Omg Otto. The Iron Chancellor. 

In your defense, the system has worked for over a hundred years. On the other hand...well...there are people who who are prepared to put seniors out on the streets in exchange for the good feels they get from the demagogues who prefer to direct our society's productivity elsewhere.

Bismarck didn't introduce it out of the goodness of his heart. He introduced it because he knew that a content population is less prone to rebel and to turn to radicalism. In his days the birth of socialism and it's success among the workers was his motivation.

(May 27, 2016 at 8:00 pm)abaris Wrote: Bismarck didn't introduce it out of the goodness of his heart. He introduced it because he knew that a content population is less prone to rebel and to turn to radicalism. In his days the birth of socialism and it's success among the workers was his motivation.

Don't you think those programs have improved everyone's quality of life?

(May 27, 2016 at 8:04 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Don't you think those programs have improved everyone's quality of life?

Of course it did. And that's not the point. The point is that even someone not caring about the great unwashed can do good, even if it's not his primary goal. A little bit of brain was all that was needed, since Bismarck wanted to ensure inner peace.

(May 27, 2016 at 8:08 pm)abaris Wrote:

(May 27, 2016 at 8:04 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Don't you think those programs have improved everyone's quality of life?

Of course it did. And that's not the point. The point is that even someone not caring about the great unwashed can do good, even if it's not his primary goal. A little bit of brain was all that was needed, since Bismarck wanted to ensure inner peace.

And Bismark had brain to spare. I would love to have a government that was informed by humanistic values, but in lieu of that, I'll take government by people who aren't irrational idiots any day.

(May 27, 2016 at 3:57 pm)scoobysnack Wrote:

(May 27, 2016 at 2:22 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Actually, I have policies I support. I just know better than to waste my time trying to change your mind. You're hooked, and you like it.

Not hooked, but between Clinton, Sanders, and Trump, I'm for Trump. Don't like everything about him, but no one is perfect. I do like how how he pisses off the SJW PC community though, along with the illegal immigrants making a mockery of our borders and laws. I like how he's against the giant sucking sound created by NAFTA. I like how he's a businessman, and not a politician always trying to appease to get votes.

No, your rhetoric and vitriol speak to an emotional investment far more than a rational decision.

You're not fooling anyone, Scrub.

If Trump becomes president, I wonder how many Americans will move to where I live, the UK, due to that?

FUCK DONALD TRUMP IN THE ASS WITH A 9000 LIGHTYEAR LONG GALAXY-CROSSING STEEL DILDO AND THEN BEAT HIM WITH IT.

(May 27, 2016 at 11:45 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: If Trump becomes president, I wonder how many Americans will move to where I live, the UK, due to that?

FUCK DONALD TRUMP IN THE ASS WITH A 9000 LIGHTYEAR LONG GALAXY-CROSSING STEEL DILDO AND THEN BEAT HIM WITH IT.

With an attitude like that we'll whip your ass for the third time.

(May 27, 2016 at 11:45 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: If Trump becomes president, I wonder how many Americans will move to where I live, the UK, due to that?

FUCK DONALD TRUMP IN THE ASS WITH A 9000 LIGHTYEAR LONG GALAXY-CROSSING STEEL DILDO AND THEN BEAT HIM WITH IT.

We've a three hundred foot spiked one in Dublin, would that be good enough?

(May 28, 2016 at 2:49 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(May 27, 2016 at 11:45 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: If Trump becomes president, I wonder how many Americans will move to where I live, the UK, due to that?

FUCK DONALD TRUMP IN THE ASS WITH A 9000 LIGHTYEAR LONG GALAXY-CROSSING STEEL DILDO AND THEN BEAT HIM WITH IT.

With an attitude like that we'll whip your ass for the third time.

You've never "whipped" us alone before. In your countries first insurgency the French Navy was the deciding factor.
In 1812-15 the US lost, failing to achieve any of its stated aims while the British succeeded in all of theirs. And remember you weren't even our major threat at the time we were concentrating on defeating Napolean, you may have heard of him.