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May 28, 2016 at 4:53 pm (This post was last modified: May 28, 2016 at 4:54 pm by WinterHold.)
(May 28, 2016 at 4:42 pm)Cato Wrote: Let me see if I have this straight. People ask if Mo knows when the end of the world will be and all he really says is you'll know it when it happens.
Deep fucking thinker that Mo was.
Actually, it's a useless question because each and every one of us will see the end of the world WHEN THEY DIE.
That's why the Quran describes those sitting around, asking about the end:
Sura 51 ( 10 ) Destroyed are the falsifiers ( 11 ) Who are within a flood [of confusion] and heedless. ( 12 ) They ask, "When is the Day of Recompense?" ( 13 ) [It is] the Day they will be tormented over the Fire
Deserves a moment of thinking, to be honest, Cato
Like...invest your time in something? we already know when the end comes: it comes when we die.
(May 28, 2016 at 4:53 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Actually, it's a useless question because each and every one of us will see the end of the world WHEN THEY DIE.
That's why the Quran describes those sitting around, asking about the end:
It's not useless when the asshole went into great detail telling people how they ought to live out of fear of what happens after the end. Not to mention the detail in the description of what happens to those who don't do as they're told. The bullshit that you posted after can be summed up as, "shut up and don't ask questions". Mo wasn't a prophet, he was a tyrant.
May 28, 2016 at 6:08 pm (This post was last modified: May 29, 2016 at 1:33 am by SteelCurtain.
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(May 28, 2016 at 5:08 pm)LastPoet Wrote:
(May 28, 2016 at 2:26 pm)Christo Wrote: Yeah we could do that, but as you can see, this forum is for discussing Islam, not looney tunes.
Well, poe, its a nice try.
Too bad it didn't work.
(May 28, 2016 at 4:29 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
Quote:Should I really answer you? If yes, then one word would be more than enough : prejudgment.
Also, did you see the 'When' in 'When is its arrival?', It clearly tells that only god knows WHEN it comes, and he did not share that with us, but there are other things about the judgment day that God DID share with us in Quran, maybe if you have seen the video first you would clearly see them, instead of jumping into nonsensical conclusions, not just about the video itself, but also about me.
P.S : Your guess IS wrong, the Anti Christ Nor the Mehdi were mentioned in the video, the makers do not believe in those myths, that's one of the reasons they made that video.
Your wanna-be-sarcastic style is so not original and also cheap; it's obvious that you're copy catting somebody but whatever >< net is full of freaks anyhow !
Let's see..
Quote:Should I really answer you?
Look..cheap sarcasm means asking "stupid" questions that make you seem funny. So, why don't you answer yourself?
Like, come on ! I came to your topic, and spent time trying to reply to you ! so....
Quote: If yes
Oh ma gosh !
Genius !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote:If yes, then one word would be more than enough : prejudgment.
Excuse me?
Here:
alfetn.net
This is a sunni eschatology forum. It's Arabic, so in case you can't speak the language, then you'll need to remain silent and listen to me.
I spent years -literally- tracking Mehdi Hadiths and "Dajjal" stuff, yeah yeah the one-eyed Anti-christ, the fire that comes out from Yemen to eat the world to the land of "Mahshar"; the three sons of Leaders who fight over "our treasure", to the digree of me, finding a Hadith that warns from the "Atlas Quack" who eats "the slaves of Allah".
That Hadith made me feel so weird ! just to find out that I'm not a cannibal, and Atlas in Arabic means "black"..so, again, racism and the Hadith, so lovely ><
Anything more?
I know what Islamic eschatology means, : I spent years studying it, just to find out that I wasted years sinning against Allah, who told me officially in the Quran, not to think about it:
Sura 42 ( 17 ) It is Allah who has sent down the Book in truth and [also] the balance. And what will make you perceive? Perhaps the Hour is near.
( 18 ) Those who do not believe in it are impatient for it, but those who believe are fearful of it and know that it is the truth. Unquestionably, those who dispute concerning the Hour are in extreme error.
I bet you wanna be in the ranks of the mehdi's army xD
So, you go against the Quran..using Hadiths which are used to stir civil wars; which caused a butchering hell that is 1400 years old..
Not prejudgement. I just know this tone, know it to the digree of despising. Come, go to your shia/sunna friends and tell them about the Atlas Quack make me famous :p
Quote:Also, did you see the 'When' in 'When is its arrival?
No! I saw the when in when is its arrival !!!!
Quote: It clearly tells that only god knows WHEN it comes, and he did not share that with us, but there are other things about the judgment day that God DID share with us in Quran
Your word gymnastic skills are stunning. Just like the people of your faith. You remind me with a member here who used to practice such tactics; the Sunni/Shia schools are so cheap; this argument is as crispy and saggy as a fast food meal !!!
No. God said "nobody knows when it would come", so, nobody -including you, your masters, your Gods- would know when it would come. Then, you have the surprise factor; which totally puts an X over your attempt to do the gymnastic sprint around it to prove that, perhaps, Mehdi is coming? ahlu bayt mambo jambo?
[b]Sura 7 ( 187 ) They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the Hour: when is its arrival? Say, "Its knowledge is only with my Lord. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."[/b]
[b]Again:[/b]
[b][b]Sura 7 ( 187 ) They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the Hour: when is its arrival? Say, "Its knowledge is only with my Lord. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."[/b][/b]
[b][b]and again:[/b][/b]
[b][b][b]Sura 7
( 187 ) They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the Hour: when is its arrival? Say, "Its knowledge is only with my Lord. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."[/b][/b][/b]
not expected or regarded as likely to happen. "his death was totally unexpected" synonyms: unforeseen, unanticipated, unpredicted, not bargained for, unlooked for, unhoped for, out of the blue, without warning, without notice; More
[b][b][b]So, I love how you practiced some awesome gymnastic moves, to make "unexpected" which means "not preceded by signs" to mean "preceded by signs" that only you, Ahlo Bayt & hadith writers know ![/b][/b][/b]
[b][b][b]Awesome ![/b][/b][/b]
Quote:[b][b][b] It clearly tells that only god knows WHEN it comes, and he did not share that with us, but there are other things about the judgment day that God DID share with us in Quran, maybe if you have seen the video first you would clearly see them[/b][/b][/b]
Look..you've got to excuse me ! the only person I knew here and was "anticipating" the advent of the hour so obssesivly, was a Shia, who talks like you.
He was waiting "the mehdi". and spent so many topics writing shia propaganda and nonesense, like telling feminists that God is a woman to win their votes, and post weird block-like comments that include the bullshit of shia scholars.
Don't misunderstand me. You just gave me previous haunting ! I don't like Muslims who ignore Quran verses, and use freaky videos using the Hadith, to tell us how "some clan" is better than the other, or how the battle of armageddon will be fought, while forgetting what their holy book even says.
Don't blame me, when you don't write introductions, and directly hammer my head propaganda style. No, I might bite.
I saw a lot from modern Muslims. I know how the fanatics of the Sunni/Shia schools operate, so...I might bite.
Savor yourself all of this, by writing what the video is about in the first place.
Sorry
Moderator Notice Christ on a cracker, please learn how to use the hide function to avoid block quoting like this, and generally it is best to only quote the portion of the reply you are responding to. - SC
I am not trying to be sarcastic, the reason I asked that question is because it was completely obvious that you were jumping into nonsensical conclusions about the video, and about me, without even seeing the video, or knowing who I am. which is know as, yes, prejudgment. your answer was completely off the subject, so did I really have to answer it? I don't think.
When did I say that I was Sunni or Shia? when did I say that I believe in Mehdi or the Anti christ, were they or any of these myths even mentioned in the video? No, but you just assumed they did without even watching it, what do you call that? prejudgment, right?
And I did write what the video is about, it talks about the end of the world according to Quran, again, I did not write that it talks about the end of the world according to Hadith, according to sunna, or according to Shia, read read the title again!
Also it looks like you replied to every single part of my reply, except the last one, where I tell you that you were wrong, the video does not talk about Sunni or Shia beliefs, actually its maker, who is a physicist and an engineer, does not believe in them, which is one of the reasons he made that video.
(May 28, 2016 at 4:46 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Would you like some cheese with that?
Need to work on your self righteous indignation skills.
And you need to work on your argumentative skills.
Looks like they censored the link, great!
Here it is again for people who wanna criticize the idea, not the poster:
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(May 28, 2016 at 4:53 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Actually, it's a useless question because each and every one of us will see the end of the world WHEN THEY DIE.
That's why the Quran describes those sitting around, asking about the end:
It's not useless when the asshole went into great detail telling people how they ought to live out of fear of what happens after the end. Not to mention the detail in the description of what happens to those who don't do as they're told. The bullshit that you posted after can be summed up as, "shut up and don't ask questions". Mo wasn't a prophet, he was a tyrant.
The god character gets pissed when people ask too many deep questions.
Every religion even those of Asia and the Orient and India, have their stupid concepts of what happens at the end of life and what happens to humans ultimately.
These are all myths. The end of our species will happen at some point. But the worst way we could get to that point is to needlessly chase that utopia because of the myths of antiquity.
We can certainly kill ourselves off needlessly from a nuclear war and or pollution, but that wont be because of some old traditions, but our human ignorance that those old traditions have nothing to do with modern problem solving.
But even if we get smart now and stop being so stupidly tribal, we still have things like meteors and comets to worry about hitting our planet and that is not a matter of if, but when. And even before our sun runs out of energy and collapses or expands and fries our planet, odds are we will be long since extinct before that.
The best that humans can do right now is seek to extend our finite ride.
May 28, 2016 at 10:03 pm (This post was last modified: May 28, 2016 at 10:12 pm by WinterHold.)
Christo
I'm sorry. Apologies, I'm sorry. I know about Mr.Kayalli; I'm sorry. I jumped quickly to that conclusion, may God forgive me. Just know, that I saw a lot from Sunnies and Shia, I thought you're here to spread that propaganda that burned my region.
About Kayalee, I disagree with some of his stuff, also his exessive end-times stuff, I hold my view: nobody know anything about it. But can't claim he knows nothing about the Quran; I think talking with him would be interesting though.
Accept my apologies, Christo. Please, pardon me. I'll go chew on my pillow now, hoping that God forgives me
Quote:Also it looks like you replied to every single part of my reply, except the last one, where I tell you that you were wrong, the video does not talk about Sunni or Shia beliefs, actually its maker, who is a physicist and an engineer, does not believe in them, which is one of the reasons he made that video.
The verses I quoted in my last reply to you: it states directly that only God would show the hour; neither Mr.Kayalee, nor Mohammed -peace be upon him-, not you, not me, know anything about when it would come; Christo.
It will take us like surprise; just like death. Kayalee should focus more on the verses that orders Arab dictators to quit killing Muslims, and tell humans to stop violence against each other, verses that kill the extremist concepts of terrorist Wahhabies, verses that orders us to feed the poor (maybe that would help Africa?)..stuff like that.
May 28, 2016 at 11:03 pm (This post was last modified: May 28, 2016 at 11:05 pm by WinterHold.)
(May 28, 2016 at 5:16 pm)Cato Wrote: It's not useless when the asshole went into great detail telling people how they ought to live out of fear of what happens after the end. Not to mention the detail in the description of what happens to those who don't do as they're told. The bullshit that you posted after can be summed up as, "shut up and don't ask questions". Mo wasn't a prophet, he was a tyrant.
Logically, it will be very useless -very- to spend your life sinning, then just moments before you die, you repent..so useless now, is it?
But if a certain question is useless (i.e you already know its answer), God should tell us, he won't be a God if he didn't do so.
No. You can ask. You need to, actually, to get rid of any attachements to masters other than God. But, when somebody keeps asking about the same exact thing, that they totally know the answer for, the same useless question, well, that would be a shame now.
It's like...salma doesn't want to love you. You keep asking salma "why !!!"..salma tells you: "I just don't !"..5 minutes later, you ask salma: why don't you love me??
Well..that
It indicates that your question is not actually a question, it's an attempt to make salma love you !
I spent years studying it, just to find out that I wasted years sinning against Allah, who told me officially in the Quran, not to think about it:
