(April 19, 2011 at 4:44 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: John DG

You just described a bunch of things that are recordable/observable.

Where are your observed/recorded aliens?

I don't know, didn't know I said they were observed/recorded.. perhaps the bible, who knows?

Because their shit stinks as much as the rest of ours.

Comprende?

People can be full of shit at every level of society. The guy that fathered the genome project is a born-again Christian. That's right, he believes there's an invisible man in the sky.

Don't appeal to authority.

(April 19, 2011 at 4:51 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Because their shit stinks as much as the rest of ours.

Comprende?

People can be full of shit at every level of society. The guy that fathered the genome project is a born-again Christian. That's right, he believes there's an invisible man in the sky.

'Don't appeal to authority.'

Never do. Following somebodys authority will get you killed, all my friends who went into the military to fight in iraq died, except one. He told me he only survived because he didn't listen and only looked out for himself.

I meant in regards to an "expert" like NASA.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies...ority.html

(April 19, 2011 at 4:51 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Because their shit stinks as much as the rest of ours.

Comprende?

People can be full of shit at every level of society. The guy that fathered the genome project is a born-again Christian. That's right, he believes there's an invisible man in the sky.

Don't appeal to authority.

maybe so but if an astronaut is saying definitively that we have been visited i'm inclined to pay it some notice. sure he could be bullshitting but i dont see any reason why he would. unless you have some ideas?

Why aren't other astronauts saying it?

(April 19, 2011 at 5:05 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Why aren't other astronauts saying it?

because they are told to keep quiet? the government does not allow them to say anything, yet this one man has the courage to speak up?

maybe this one guy is a psychotic nutjob who think's it's fun to tell stories?

who knows

the fact that this guy has the mental conditioning required to be a frickin astronaut leads me away from the second possibility.

but sure you're gonna say i'm appealing to authority, and you'd be damn right. i can't help the way my brain works, if someone with that kinda knowledge and training and expertise is saying something im gonna listen. im 100% open ofcourse that there are a few reasons why such a man would say such a thing. but the second option to me is far less plausible than the first. especially seen as our governments are lying decietful sons of bitches

(April 19, 2011 at 5:00 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: I meant in regards to an "expert" like NASA.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies...ority.html

I know, sorry Im just never clear on what I am saying. Just an example of why taking somebody's authority could be bad, regardless of how knowledgable they are like your scientist. After all were only human and everyone make's mistake's.

By the way, top secret evidence is legally attainable by normal citizen's after about 50-80 years, because it's considered so far in the past that even if people do know, they wouldn't care. We started the SR-71 blackbird project in the 50's, had it flying in the 60's and used it to the 90's. Now the government replaced it with something even better and more topsecret, that we won't know about untill it's ready to be replaced or is.

Point is, classified becomes declassified when the people who would have wanted to know are all but dead, and the people who are around wouldn't care.

(April 19, 2011 at 4:51 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Because their shit stinks as much as the rest of ours.

Comprende?

People can be full of shit at every level of society. The guy that fathered the genome project is a born-again Christian. That's right, he believes there's an invisible man in the sky.

Don't appeal to authority.

That's true, he does, but he recently acknowledged that intelligent design is wrong. At least he's smart enough to hedge his bets.

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Quote:But you cannot disprove ancient astronaughts anymore than anyone can prove them.

This is true. We cannot. But we also cannot disprove the existence of unicorns. That doesn't mean that they exist.

I have a lot of respect for Dr. Mitchell as an astronaut, and what he did by walking on the moon. That said, we still need physical evidence for ET, not anecdotal stories.

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Quote:But you cannot disprove ancient astronaughts anymore than anyone can prove them.

You can not disprove the theory that your mother was a complete whore who slept with thousands of chimpazees anymore than anyone can prove it, especially if the theory includes a line about "hundreds of people knew this, but is being told to keep quiet by the government to spare you of mental anguish".

Should I proceed on the assumption that this theory is true merely because you can't prove it is false?


As to Dr Mitchell's credentials, why should we take his credentials more seriously when you don't grant the same significance to the the credentials of those of people in comparable situation to him, just as observant as him, and who refuse to back him up?