(June 25, 2016 at 9:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:17 pm)Heatheness Wrote: That is a wholly sexist statement in and of itself. Men's breast are a object of sexual desire not only for some women but some men as well.

The solution based on equality of course would be to not allow men's pics if women's are not allowed.

I doubt very much that AF is being sexist in this matter, as they are simply complying with laws and the nature of this Forum.

That being said, there are plenty of places you can go to see nipples of various sizes, shapes, and genders.  It's an Atheism forum, not a Free The Nipples forum.

Boru

Thanks for your pointless input but that is not the point and you know it.

I am not asking them to not comply with the laws. I am asking them to apply the rules equally. No women nude pics, fine... then no men nude pics.

(June 25, 2016 at 9:18 pm)Heatheness Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:15 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: Indeed, but it's not the fault of the forum.

Sure it is. They make the rules, they are in charge of enforcing them. They can enforce them equally.

In western society female breasts are generally viewed as more sexual than male breasts.

So to keep in accordance with things like child pornography laws and pornography laws in general this website would be shut down if all of a sudden the owners of this website decided to allow girls under 16 showing their tits or allowed anyone of any age to see girls tits all around the forum.

On the other hand there's no need to not allow male breasts to be shown to be in accordance with the law.

If you're offended by male breasts then you'll just have to skip past them quickly and avoid looking, if you're just coming up with a hypothetical situation in order to complain about things being sexist then you'll be better off complaining to higher powers than this forum about laws that are in place that this forum abides by.

You're literally the only person who has an issue here.

(June 25, 2016 at 9:17 pm)Heatheness Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:02 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Because of human evolution and societal norms, female breasts are sexually desirable, whereas male breasts are generally not seen so. They are the anatomical equivalent of the belly button.

Also, we are subject to laws, and like it or not, we have underage users. If we allow female breasts in the open forum, we'd have to make the entire forum 18+.

A69 is very peen centric.

That is a wholly sexist statement in and of itself. Men's breast are a object of sexual desire not only for some women but some men as well.

The solution based on equality of course would be to not allow men's pics if women's are not allowed.

'Sexist' is a really strong word. Learn who your allies are. I'm on your side. I don't make the laws in America and otherwise. We are an open forum and Tibs ultimately is liable for any lawsuit from some litigious parent who says we subjected their child to lewd content.

As a staff we can discuss making the rules more equitable--I wouldn't dismiss that out of hand. I don't know where everyone stands on it.

I don't think the forum as a whole would be for it.

(June 25, 2016 at 9:25 pm)Heatheness Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I doubt very much that AF is being sexist in this matter, as they are simply complying with laws and the nature of this Forum.

That being said, there are plenty of places you can go to see nipples of various sizes, shapes, and genders.  It's an Atheism forum, not a Free The Nipples forum.

Boru

Thanks for your pointless input but that is not the point and you know it.

I am not asking them to not comply with the laws. I am asking them to apply the rules equally. No women nude pics, fine... then no men nude pics.

How about a less unilaterally draconian solution; one which suits your sensibilities as well as everyone else's - you don't want to see /post men nude pics, fine... then don't look at /post women nude pics either. Fair?

(June 25, 2016 at 9:25 pm)Heatheness Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I doubt very much that AF is being sexist in this matter, as they are simply complying with laws and the nature of this Forum.

That being said, there are plenty of places you can go to see nipples of various sizes, shapes, and genders.  It's an Atheism forum, not a Free The Nipples forum.

Boru

Thanks for your pointless input but that is not the point and you know it.

I am not asking them to not comply with the laws. I am asking them to apply the rules equally. No women nude pics, fine... then no men nude pics.

So, if pics of shirtless men were barred from the Forum, you'd belt up about this? Because if that's what it takes, I'll start a petition right now.

Boru

Some women have gotten around that rule on facebook by posting pictures of themselves topless, but with their nipples replaced by man nipples. That way it's all okay. I'm not really sure I've seen topless male pictures in the general forum here.

(June 25, 2016 at 9:29 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:17 pm)Heatheness Wrote: That is a wholly sexist statement in and of itself. Men's breast are a object of sexual desire not only for some women but some men as well.

The solution based on equality of course would be to not allow men's pics if women's are not allowed.

'Sexist' is a really strong word. Learn who your allies are. I'm on your side. I don't make the laws in America and otherwise. We are an open forum and Tibs ultimately is liable for any lawsuit from some litigious parent who says we subjected their child to lewd content.

As a staff we can discuss making the rules more equitable--I wouldn't dismiss that out of hand. I don't know where everyone stands on it.

I don't think the forum as a whole would be for it.

That "equality" bit is my point. I don't care that female nudity is not allowed. I agree that young posters should not be subjected to nudity but what I don't agree is that men be given a pass.

Here's why:

Men have always been in control of sexuality of both sexes until recently. Men determined what was and was not sexually arousing and what was and was not acceptable for public view. Women's opinions were not even considered and neither were their desires.

Now women are supposed to be equal and we are supposed to in control of our own sexuality and be treated equally and here we are saying it's acceptable for men to still determine what is sexual and what is not by saying "men want to see women's breast as sexual so therefore they must be banned. But men don't see other men's breasts as sexual so that okay to see them. That is wrong.

I am not talking about law that restricts, I know what the law allows and what it doesn't (though this bs has been challenged in court and won for women to mow topless some years ago) what I am asking is for the forum to say "we realize the legal question is or may not be fair in it's allowances so we will be fair in our restrictions. That is the point I want to make.

Thanks for the response.

There is no cabal of men deciding things for women on these boards, we simply comply with law Heathen. You might find, if you asked, that many on the boards do not agree with the laws as written, but that doesn't make us, or these boards, free to make those decisions.

(June 25, 2016 at 9:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(June 25, 2016 at 9:25 pm)Heatheness Wrote: Thanks for your pointless input but that is not the point and you know it.

I am not asking them to not comply with the laws. I am asking them to apply the rules equally. No women nude pics, fine... then no men nude pics.

So, if pics of shirtless men were barred from the Forum, you'd belt up about this?  Because if that's what it takes, I'll start a petition right now.

Boru

Absolutely no one is asking you to participate in this discussion. That you continue to complain about having a thread that you can but refuse to ignore, is on you.