I don't think I am genetically programmed to be monogamous, but I am socially conditioned to think it's the most acceptable (least harmful / most desirable) course. I was monogamous for many years. I thought it was worth it at the time, and I will probably find someone for whom it's worth it (feels comfortable / natural / fulfilling) in the future. Nothing wrong either way.

One thing that annoys me about monogamy is the restrictions it entails.
There are societal rules about when and who you can associate with when you're in a monogamous relationship.
Even if the partners allow each other the freedom to do as they wish (not including intimacy) with any other person, there is always gossip.
When my last relationship ended I made a deal with myself that I would associate with who I wanted, whenever I wanted, regardless of jealous husbands or wives who were jealous of friendships or gossip.
As a non-monogamous person I'll be damned if I'm going to be tied down by the monogamy game.
I'm a free man and I'll do as I wish.

If someone wants to comport to a monogamous lifestyle and then bitch about the restrictions, what am I to infer there ?

I'm not comporting to a monogamous lifestyle, that is if it is I who is that someone you're referring to.
And bitching? Ouch Vorlon. OK maybe I was but 'complaining' sounds better if you're talking about someone you like.
You do like me don't you?

Quote:When polygamous marriages occur in premodern societies, they are overwhelmingly likely to involve polygyny (one husband, multiple wives) as opposed to polyandry (one wife, multiple husbands). Overall, of the 1,231 cultures in the Ethnographic Atlas Codebook, 84.6 percent are classified as polygynous, 15.1 percent as monogamous, and 0.3 percent as polyandrous. Polygyny is much more common than polyandry because evolutionarily, the benefits of polygyny for men are much higher than the benefits of polyandry for women.

Are People "Naturally" Polygamous?

Quote:Monogamy's spread in the West had something to do with the influence of Christianity, but not as much as you might expect. Mainstream Christianity has always endorsed and enforced monogamy, and as Christianity spread across Europe in the centuries following the fall of Rome, monogamy spread along with it. However, Christianity's condemnation of polygyny has never been as straightforward as anti-polygyny church leaders would have preferred, because no Biblical passages explicitly prohibit plural marriage. Indeed, leaders of breakaway Christian polygynous sects, like 16th-century German Anabaptists and 19th-century American Mormons, have always been eager to point out that several central Old Testament figures are polygynists. Abraham, for instance, had two wives simultaneously, and Solomon had 700 (plus 300 concubines).

Why We Think Monogamy Is Normal

(June 28, 2016 at 11:23 am)Little lunch Wrote: I'm not comporting to a monogamous lifestyle, that is if it is I who is that someone you're referring to.
And bitching? Ouch Vorlon. OK maybe I was but 'complaining' sounds better if you're talking about someone you like.
You do like me don't you?

well, you said it 'annoyed' you, so I thought you were (willingly) doing it.

Since I'm not currently monogamous (or whatever the word is for homos) (BTW, I have been willingly monogamous on occasion) monogamy doesn't 'annoy' me.  I rather like lording the concept over the christers who chafe under it's restrictions, I also acknowledge you're not in that set.

Of late I have noted a profound sea change in the fundamentalist/evangelical world in their support of an open and notorious adulterer/serial monogamist for president (Trump).  This was not a given in the past.  In Ronald Reagan's campaign for president, the children from first wife Jane Wyman (Maureen and Micheal) were swept under the rug (nearly shoved under the bus, actually) so as not to offend the sensibilities of the religious folks Reagan felt he needed to pander to to get the nomination.  As recently as Newt Gingrich's last run, he was strongly pressured to pledge fidelity to his (current) spouse (see my sarcastic take on that in my sig line) in exchange for evangelical/fundamentalist support.  Apparently  their eternal and unchanging God has nevertheless had a change of heart about marital fidelity and now this election cycle, it's OK to endorse Trump.  I guess they are also not saying "but what about the children?" this time, LOL.

So, consider monogamy as something not to be put out by, but rather as yet another arrow in the quiver to bebother, vex, castigate, torment, and annoy (tee hee) the 'Christians' with.



and for the "Christians" reading this, I realize cracking a Bible is difficult these days, but go check Mark 10:11 for an absolutely stunning statement on divorce and remarriage from [drum roll] Jesus Christ, HIMSELF!!  And if your reading and comprehension skills are up to snuff, suddenly, this previous incomprehensible post makes perfect sense.  Praise Jesus.

I would also advise the "Christians" reading this that if the current denomination, sect or schism you're attending does in fact offer the sacrament of (re)marriage to divorced people, that is actually one of those pesky and mysterious 'clue' things you may have heard about but never knew what it meant.  In this case it means you are NOT participating in The One True Faith, and you are therefore damned.

Glad to clear up so much there for you !!!!

Bebother, vex and castigate.
I'm such a fan of your vocabulary Vorlon. :-)

Fuck all the people you want, or be loyal to one person. In the end, it's your life and you should do whatever the hell makes you happy and not give a fuck what others think.

Though the last bit of that will probably contribute, immensely, to your unhappiness. 

Monogamy helps to create more stable social relationships, is connected with less violent crime, is a more obvious source of financial and emotional support for children and helps people break out of the selfishness of seeking sex for the purpose of hedonistic indulgence (which treats people as a means to an end).