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RE: An Atheists Daily Devotional
July 22, 2016 at 7:43 am
Well, I don't have a scripture or a quote, but I became an atheist when two things occurred to me.
1. If there is a God, he is an incredibly arrogant, sadistic asshole,
and
2. I would rather go to hell than heaven, because all of my friends will be there
Things are a lot more like they used to be, than they are now.
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RE: An Atheists Daily Devotional
July 22, 2016 at 7:54 am
(July 22, 2016 at 7:43 am)Imaginaryfriendless Wrote: 2. I would rather go to hell than heaven, because all of my friends will be there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zLMBAl-aqQ
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RE: An Atheists Daily Devotional
July 22, 2016 at 8:35 am
(July 21, 2016 at 5:21 am)chimp3 Wrote: Lucifer says he can make Job say "God Damn it". God says "No you can't because Job is my bitch!". God agrees to let Lucifer have his way with Job...
Not Lucifer but Satan. Satan in the book of Job is not necceceraly a bad being, he's a prosecutor that lives in God's castle and indeed Hebrew word satan means "adversary"; that is, one who opposes.
When it comes to Lucifer it means The Shining One and it comes from primitive scoieties understanding of astronomy - more closely Venus. Venus is always seen from earth to be fairly close to the sun. When it is in that part of its orbit that puts it to the east of the sun, it shines out most clearly after sunset, and sets never more than three hours afterward. It is then visible only in the evening and is called the evening star.
When Venus is to the west of the sun, the planet rises first and for a short period of time (never more than three hours), it shines in the eastern sky as dawn gradually breaks. It is then the morning star. Primitive people considered the evening star and the morning star to be two separate bodies.
The Greeks, in the period when they thought Venus to be two bodies, called the evening star "Hesperos" (meaning west) and the morning star "Phosphoros" (ight-bringer). Romans then directly translated "Phosphoros" into Latin "Lucifer".
Also in ancient societies flattering courtiers would think nothing of naming their king the Morning Star, as though to imply that the sight of him was as welcome as that of the morning star heralding the dawn after a long, cold winter's night. This was really widespread and take Louis XIV of France, two and a half centuries ago, was well known as the Sun King.
When Lucifer is mentioned in Isaiah writer of the verses concerning Lucifer ironically described his fall from absolute power to captivity and death as the fall of the moring star' from the heavens to Hell.
With time, however, these verses came to gain a more esoteric meaning and by New Testament times, the Jews had developed, in full detail, the legend that Satan had been the leader of the "fallen angels."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: An Atheists Daily Devotional
July 22, 2016 at 12:26 pm
(July 22, 2016 at 7:43 am)Imaginaryfriendless Wrote: 2. I would rather go to hell than heaven, because all of my friends will be there
The added bonus of you all being there is that I won't have to put up with you for eternity when I'm in heaven.
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RE: An Atheists Daily Devotional
July 22, 2016 at 12:27 pm
(July 22, 2016 at 12:26 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 22, 2016 at 7:43 am)Imaginaryfriendless Wrote: 2. I would rather go to hell than heaven, because all of my friends will be there
The added bonus of you all being there is that I won't have to put up with you for eternity when I'm in heaven.
I think that's a win-win for both of us, Lek.
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RE: An Atheists Daily Devotional
July 22, 2016 at 12:29 pm
I'm not going to quote the whole thing here, but I love the story of the Good Samaritan. Told to love their neighbor, one of the disciples asked who our neighbors are? The parable is the answer: Whoever needs us.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: An Atheists Daily Devotional
July 22, 2016 at 12:37 pm
(July 22, 2016 at 12:27 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (July 22, 2016 at 12:26 pm)Lek Wrote: The added bonus of you all being there is that I won't have to put up with you for eternity when I'm in heaven.
I think that's a win-win for both of us, Lek.
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RE: An Atheists Daily Devotional
July 22, 2016 at 12:40 pm
In the Abrahamic scenario, I know for a fact that I'd end up afflicted with heaven. It would be the single most cruel punishment a sick deity could possibly do to me.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: An Atheists Daily Devotional
July 22, 2016 at 12:44 pm
(July 22, 2016 at 12:26 pm)Lek Wrote: (July 22, 2016 at 7:43 am)Imaginaryfriendless Wrote: 2. I would rather go to hell than heaven, because all of my friends will be there
The added bonus of you all being there is that I won't have to put up with you for eternity when I'm in heaven.
Howdy Lek!
I have a question for you, as a Christian.
Lets say you and your spouse are both god-fearin' folk, and satisfy all of the Heavenly entry requirements. You are both killed in a plane crash, and arrive at the pearly gates.
Your idea of Heaven, is to spend all eternity with your spouse.
Your spouses idea of Heaven is to spend all eternity with his/her FIRST spouse, who died young and he/she never got over.
Who wins? Do you get a...copy, of your spouse in your Heaven? Does God chop her in two? Are you just hosed because he married her first, so you have to go through the brochure and pick a different Heaven?
I'm honestly curious about this. No disrespect intended, really.
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RE: An Atheists Daily Devotional
July 22, 2016 at 4:14 pm
(July 22, 2016 at 12:44 pm)Imaginaryfriendless Wrote: Howdy Lek!
I have a question for you, as a Christian.
Lets say you and your spouse are both god-fearin' folk, and satisfy all of the Heavenly entry requirements. You are both killed in a plane crash, and arrive at the pearly gates.
Your idea of Heaven, is to spend all eternity with your spouse.
Your spouses idea of Heaven is to spend all eternity with his/her FIRST spouse, who died young and he/she never got over.
Who wins? Do you get a...copy, of your spouse in your Heaven? Does God chop her in two? Are you just hosed because he married her first, so you have to go through the brochure and pick a different Heaven?
I'm honestly curious about this. No disrespect intended, really.
According to Jesus there is no marriage in heaven. The husband will spend eternity with his wife and the wife will spend eternity with both husbands. Heaven probably isn't exactly what we envision it to be. We know that it will be good, so either each spouse will be happy and satisfied. Below is a good answer to the question of whether or there will be marriage in heaven.
http://www.gotquestions.org/marriage-heaven.html
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