(July 23, 2016 at 5:30 am)robvalue Wrote: In what way?

Emma told me some kid walked off a cliff "chasing" a Pokemon. I'm concerned about kids being out there playing this game. And to be honest, I'm even concerned about adults.

Oh, please - a skateboard, or a bicycle are more dangerous toys for kids, than Pokemon Go. I'd be more concerned about adults playing the game, because they drive, but then again - that's a problem with smart-phones and their dumb-owners in general, not only this one game (although it certainly isn't helping).

The main problem with Pokemon Go is that it's hugely popular and therefore makes for an ideal scapegoat for media, pandering to sh*tty parents. Just what video games have been for the past 30 years, or so. No worries - games like this will become more and more popular, the players more savvy and "street-smart" and the society will get over the issue, only to move on to the next bogeyman.

(July 26, 2016 at 8:00 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(July 23, 2016 at 5:30 am)robvalue Wrote: In what way?

Emma told me some kid walked off a cliff "chasing" a Pokemon. I'm concerned about kids being out there playing this game. And to be honest, I'm even concerned about adults.

Oh, please - a skateboard, or a bicycle are more dangerous toys for kids, than Pokemon Go. I'd be more concerned about adults playing the game, because they drive, but then again - that's a problem with smart-phones and their dumb-owners in general, not only this one game (although it certainly isn't helping).

The main problem with Pokemon Go is that it's hugely popular and therefore makes for an ideal scapegoat for media, pandering to sh*tty parents. Just what video games have been for the past 30 years, or so. No worries - games like this will become more and more popular, the players more savvy and "street-smart" and the society will get over the issue, only to move on to the next bogeyman.

This topic got me thinking a similar thing, if the bicycle or skateboard had been invented yesterday and got to be amazingly popular imagine how many deaths and calls for banning a they would get.

(July 26, 2016 at 1:26 pm)paulpablo Wrote: This topic got me thinking a similar thing, if the bicycle or skateboard had been invented yesterday and got to be amazingly popular imagine how many deaths and calls for banning a they would get.

Any sport, really. Every year millions of children get injured, while playing team sports, or doing gymnastics in school. Some of those injuries (thousands) have serious medical consequences, including paralysis, brain damage and even death. But we're so used the idea, that sport is good, that we write those kids off, as acceptable casualties. The same with adult sports - nobody (well - not not nearly enough people) gives 2 f*cks about half-wits on steroids permanently damaging each other, often dying prematurely. All we care about is the show...

Before gloves were introduced to boxing there were no documented deaths from the sport, because people wouldn't punch each other in the head. Since then there have been thousands of deaths worldwide and great many more serious head and spine injuries, both to professionals and amateurs, including kids. But nobody calls for ban on boxing gloves, do they?

This game has finally solved the age old question about the meaning of life. Apparently it's finding pokemon with a smartphone.

(July 26, 2016 at 1:45 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(July 26, 2016 at 1:26 pm)paulpablo Wrote: This topic got me thinking a similar thing, if the bicycle or skateboard had been invented yesterday and got to be amazingly popular imagine how many deaths and calls for banning a they would get.

Any sport, really. Every year millions of children get injured, while playing team sports, or doing gymnastics in school. Some of those injuries (thousands) have serious medical consequences, including paralysis, brain damage and even death. But we're so used the idea, that sport is good, that we write those kids off, as acceptable casualties. The same with adult sports - nobody (well - not not nearly enough people) gives 2 f*cks about half-wits on steroids permanently damaging each other, often dying prematurely. All we care about is the show...

Before gloves were introduced to boxing there were no documented deaths from the sport, because people wouldn't punch each other in the head. Since then there have been thousands of deaths worldwide and great many more serious head and spine injuries, both to professionals and amateurs, including kids. But nobody calls for ban on boxing gloves, do they?

Thousands of deaths? That sounds like an exaggeration. Deaths in boxing are very rare. Sports are good. People who fear the risk of injury are just using it as an excuse to stay lazy.

(July 26, 2016 at 4:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Thousands of deaths? That sounds like an exaggeration. Deaths in boxing are very rare.

Not nearly rare enough, since the boxing gloves have been introduced allowing for continuous punching in the head. Here's a list of ~1200 fatalities since the beginning of the 20th century alone. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=...s#mw-pages

I doubt the list is exhaustive even for that period. And I don't care enough to check if it includes other similar fighting sports, like thai-boxing, or MMA. The point is - if boxing was unknown and was introduced now - every sensible person would consider it un unnecessarily risky activity and a barbaric display too. Pokémon Go has nothing on this sh*t.

(July 26, 2016 at 4:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Sports are good.

Yeah, sure - whatever you say. Kids giving each other concussions for the sake of entertainment for their idiot parents, trying to live out their own unfulfilled ambitions - that sure sounds... good.

(July 26, 2016 at 4:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: People who fear the risk of injury are just using it as an excuse to stay lazy.

I've got a simple answer to this assertion - bullsh*t. But hey - whatever helps you feel better than other people.

(July 26, 2016 at 10:08 pm)Homeless Nutter Wrote:

(July 26, 2016 at 4:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Thousands of deaths? That sounds like an exaggeration. Deaths in boxing are very rare.

Not nearly rare enough, since the boxing gloves have been introduced allowing for continuous punching in the head. Here's a list of ~1200 fatalities since the beginning of the 20th century alone. http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=...s#mw-pages

I doubt the list is exhaustive even for that period. And I don't care enough to check if it includes other similar fighting sports, like thai-boxing, or MMA. The point is - if boxing was unknown and was introduced now - every sensible person would consider it un unnecessarily risky activity and a barbaric display too. Pokémon Go has nothing on this sh*t.

(July 26, 2016 at 4:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Sports are good.

Yeah, sure - whatever you say. Kids giving each other concussions for the sake of entertainment for their idiot parents, trying to live out their own unfulfilled ambitions - that sure sounds... good.

(July 26, 2016 at 4:24 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: People who fear the risk of injury are just using it as an excuse to stay lazy.

I've got a simple answer to this assertion - bullsh*t. But hey - whatever helps you feel better than other people.

I was just reading a study, you know what the number two cause of premature death is? Physical inactivity. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...221146.htm

Laziness kills literally thousands of times the number of people that sports do.

Edit: Also that list contradicts your claim that nobody died prior to gloves, there are deaths listened on that that go as far back as the 1700s. Also most of the deaths seem to have happened between 1900-1930. As of this year there have been 0. So like I said, extremely rare. Especially in comparison to the millions who die annually from inactivity and obesity. Boxing is many times safer then laziness.

Read this today, class action lawsuit.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/pokemon...32380.html

(July 27, 2016 at 12:58 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I was just reading a study, you know what the number two cause of premature death is? Physical inactivity. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20...221146.htm

Laziness kills literally thousands of times the number of people that sports do.

Guess what - "physical activity" is not a synonym for "sport". You can be physically active without damaging your brain on daily basis. Pokémon Go makes you walk - that's a clear health benefit. And anyway, I'm not saying sports have no benefits - just pointing out, that we're willing to turn a blind eye to even the more gruesome consequences of boxing, American football, or cheerleading - for the sake of entertainment.

Which is why I say - let people have fun playing their Pokémon, occasionally walking off cliffs and getting mugged, it's no worse than what we're already allowing them to do to themselves.

(July 27, 2016 at 12:58 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Edit: Also that list contradicts your claim that nobody died prior to gloves, there are deaths listened on that that go as far back as the 1700s.

Fine - there were very few deaths in boxing before introduction of gloves. If you're trying to tell me that people used to punch each other in the head with bare hands, or that punching someone in the chest is equally dangerous as hits to the face - I can only shake my head and laugh...

(July 27, 2016 at 12:58 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Also most of the deaths seem to have happened between 1900-1930. As of this year there have been 0. So like I said, extremely rare. Especially in comparison to the millions who die annually from inactivity and obesity. Boxing is many times safer then laziness.

Deaths from Pokémon are extremely rare, compared with heart disease - as is almost every other kind of death, except for the top few. I'm not promoting laziness. There's an infinity of physical activities, that are orders of magnitude safer than boxing. But of course - we seem to enjoy watching guys giving each other concussions too much...