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One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
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RE: One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
Eye roll. You can fact check claims about Hillary pretty easily. Some are true and some aren't. It's not like someone who said 'I don't like Hillary because she voted for the war in Iraq and encouraged American involvement in Libya" is making that up. There is plenty of true criticisms of Hillary and it's silly to deny them.

Especially when the same people who deny confirmed facts about Hillary believe the most outrageous stuff about Trump with little evidence.
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RE: One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
(July 29, 2016 at 1:37 am)AFTT47 Wrote:
(July 29, 2016 at 12:35 am)Bella Morte Wrote: Fuck Hilary.

Isn't it past your bedtime? Why don't you take a few more years to mature. Then you might have something useful to contribute.

And what have you contributed, exactly?

Fuck all.
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RE: One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
(July 29, 2016 at 1:16 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Fortunately for us Bella doesn't vote here, though I'm sure she'd feel right at home in many of the red states.

Meh, you'd be surprised at my political views. Not as right-wing as you're trying to portray me as. I didn't even say I supported Trump anyway.
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RE: One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
Surprised or just disappointed?
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RE: One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
Hillary and her campaign has done a lot of shady things recently. She is not squeaky clean, by any means.

But she's not this evil un-human machine out to ruin the country, like a lot of the BernieBros are painting her out to be. They surrounded themselves in a bubble where they thought that no one supported Hillary; they whipped themselves up in a frenzy of hatred where all they did was read articles that confirmed that they should hate the woman, that she is evil incarnate, and that she deserves to rot in a prison cell.

In fact, she's an incredibly experienced politician who has an unassailable progressive record on women's rights and universal healthcare and minority/under-represented issues.

She's just not as progressive as Bernie, so they call her a republican and feel smart about it. In point of fact, let them take a political issues test, and see how well they match with both Clinton AND Bernie, and I bet it's within 5%.

She's actually the most qualified politician to seek the office in my lifetime.
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RE: One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
(July 29, 2016 at 1:45 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: Eye roll. You can fact check claims about Hillary pretty easily. Some are true and some aren't. It's not like someone who said 'I don't like Hillary because she voted for the war in Iraq and encouraged American involvement in Libya" is making that up. There is plenty of true criticisms of Hillary and it's silly to deny them.

Especially when the same people who deny confirmed facts about Hillary believe the most outrageous stuff about Trump with little evidence.


I for one wouldn't argue that Hillary has been a visionary or out in front as a leader for change.  That isn't what she does.  She is a slogging wonk who works long hours to try to create change for people who need it.  She isn't brilliant.  Gawd knows she isn't the world's best communicator.  But she is an adult, responsible, reliable and means well.  I'll take that any day of the week over the fool the republicans are saddled with.  Obama has done remarkably well in spite of the all out obstructionism on the other side.  But he too isn't wildly liberal, though he is a better speaker the HC.  Both are middle of the roaders.  But I trust them to get as much as the climate will allow.  Bernie would have been less effective enacting the platform that reflects his agenda.  

HC has faults.  Who doesn't?  But hers are minuscule by comparison to the Donald.  *shudders*
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RE: One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
/facepalm
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RE: One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
I'm team Hillary, I believe she's going to make the best president America ever had or will ever have. Mark my words, she is amazing, the best possible politician, the best in the world, really. I admire her very much. Such an inspiring figure!
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RE: One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
What a coincidence that the president who was kicked out for getting his dick sucked by his secretary, just happened to have a wife to fill the role some years later. No-one else was good enough. Her only rival now is a guy you wouldn't piss on if he was on fire.

Sorry, but your country's political structure is an obvious sham.
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RE: One of the most Ethical (and most lied about) political leader
(July 29, 2016 at 4:04 am)Little lunch Wrote: What a coincidence that the president who was kicked out for getting his dick sucked by his secretary, just happened to have a wife to fill the role some years later. No-one else was good enough. Her only rival now is a guy you wouldn't piss on if he was on fire.

Sorry, but your country's political structure is an obvious sham.

Trumps a legend m8
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