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Milwalkee riots
#41
RE: Milwalkee riots
(August 17, 2016 at 8:10 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote:
(August 17, 2016 at 4:30 pm)RobertE Wrote: In the meantime, a few days ago, 14 year old Jesse James Romero was killed by police and no-one says anything, and I have looked everywhere on this forum and others besides. It seems that if, you are hispanic, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, French, English or Aboriginal, your life doesn't matter unless you are of African origin and got shot by a specifically WHITE police officer. (black officers don't count it seems.)

Jesse James Romero was black or at least looked it (albeit mixed/lighter skinned), "speaking Spanish" isn't a race. He's also far from the first black victim of police brutality to not get a lot of coverage. If every victim did, we'd literally never stop talking about it.

But non-black Hispanic, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, French etc etc lives can all matter when they're routinely being gunned down by the police every day. You've missed the memo that your life already matters in America so it doesn't need stating that your life matters. That's the entire fucking point.

He was Hispanic.
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#42
RE: Milwalkee riots
(August 17, 2016 at 8:11 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:
(August 17, 2016 at 8:10 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: Jesse James Romero was black or at least looked it (albeit mixed/lighter skinned), "speaking Spanish" isn't a race. He's also far from the first black victim of police brutality to not get a lot of coverage. If every victim did, we'd literally never stop talking about it.

But non-black Hispanic, Chinese, Korean, Japanese, French etc etc lives can all matter when they're routinely being gunned down by the police every day. You've missed the memo that your life already matters in America so it doesn't need stating that your life matters. That's the entire fucking point.

He was Hispanic.

Yes he was Hispanic, and he was also black. They're not mutually exclusive. Only America makes a race out of speaking a certain language.

Ricky Martin and Zoe Saldana are both Hispanic, he's white, she's black. It's a culture, not a racial group.
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"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
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#43
RE: Milwalkee riots
(August 17, 2016 at 8:14 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote:
(August 17, 2016 at 8:11 pm)Bella Morte Wrote: He was Hispanic.

Yes he was Hispanic, and he was also black. They're not mutually exclusive. Only America makes a race out of speaking a certain language.

Ricky Martin and Zoe Saldana are both Hispanic, he's white, she's black. It's a culture, not a racial group.

You literally just said he may be black, as he at least looks it. Now you're insisting he is black. Make up your damn mind. All the sources say Latino, they don't mention anything about being black or mixed race.
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#44
RE: Milwalkee riots
(August 17, 2016 at 7:58 pm)Aroura Wrote: "For if you suffer your people to be ill-educated, and their manners to be corrupted from their infancy, and then punish them for those crimes to which their first education disposed them, what else is to be concluded from this, but that you first make thieves and then punish them.”


― Thomas More, Utopia

Making fun of the poor people with little to no education is a dick move. They did not chose to be born into poverty, nor to be denied a proper education. Offer your poor fellow a helping hand, instead of a smirk. You ass.

That's a good point, I like that. Poverty, especially in our supposedly First World nation here in the US, is no laughing matter.
The poor and uneducated are human beings. Let's treat them that way.
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#45
RE: Milwalkee riots
It doesn't really matter if he actually was black or just looked it. Either way, the police probably saw a black/mixed kid and treated him as such, and that's what matters.

You're just clutching at silly irrelevant arguments now because I worded things differently from post to post, shame on me for not plagiarizing my own post word-for-word. Pettiness
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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#46
RE: Milwalkee riots
(August 17, 2016 at 8:30 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: It doesn't really matter if he actually was black or just looked it. Either way, the police probably saw a black/mixed kid and treated him as such, and that's what matters.

You're just clutching at silly irrelevant arguments now because i worded things differently from post to post, shame on me for not plagiarizing my posts word-for-word.

No, you're taking a Latino kid and trying to spin it into a black issue. If you can provide some kind of evidence that he is black or has black ancestry other than his looks, I'll eat my own words.

Until then, every source says he is Latino and that's what I'm going with.
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#47
RE: Milwalkee riots
Also, the wealthy elites love it when we regular non-powerful people shout at each other about race and blacks vs. whites. It distracts us from the real problem, which is class stratification and non-elites' inability to access power and resources.

We can't have regular people upending things with their torches and pitchforks, now can we? So let's all argue among ourselves about black and white people instead. It's no wonder right-wing radio and Faux News loves to cover this bread and circuses shit non-stop.
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#48
RE: Milwalkee riots
(August 17, 2016 at 11:49 am)A Theist Wrote:
(August 17, 2016 at 11:08 am)Faith No More Wrote: Anyone tell you goofy dipshit that he's had some stellar inner-city American education that in no way leaves him prepared to hold a real job?

Anyone tell you, shit for brains, that the goofy dip shit can get his GED, for free, and get a warehouse job, or any number of other jobs that pays him money? Hillary and Barack have been boasting that they've added all kinds of jobs.

I see the milk of christer charity is flowing it's usual course.

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#49
RE: Milwalkee riots
(August 17, 2016 at 8:32 pm)Bella Morte Wrote:
(August 17, 2016 at 8:30 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: It doesn't really matter if he actually was black or just looked it. Either way, the police probably saw a black/mixed kid and treated him as such, and that's what matters.

You're just clutching at silly irrelevant arguments now because i worded things differently from post to post, shame on me for not plagiarizing my posts word-for-word.

No, you're taking a Latino kid and trying to spin it into a black issue. If you can provide some kind of evidence that he is black or has black ancestry other than his looks, I'll eat my own words.

Until then, every source says he is Latino and that's what I'm going with.

Nonsense. It's not like the police took his genealogy. That is the point.

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#50
RE: Milwalkee riots
(August 17, 2016 at 6:43 pm)A Theist Wrote: Spoken like a truly naive SJW dipshit. I probably know a hell of a lot more about growing up in an inner city than you do. How privileged are you?

Aww...you're so cute when you resort to ad hominems. I'll take that as an acknowledgement that you didn't think this through.

(August 17, 2016 at 6:43 pm)A Theist Wrote: Anybody who expects others to just GIVE them money is someone who has no sense of personal responsibility and is too lazy to get job and earn a paycheck. There's nothing racist about that.

Or perhaps this was his poorly educated way of addressing income inequality? Maybe he has a low IQ and that was the best way he could articulate his belief that rich people should recognize their blessings and be more charitable to the poor? Perhaps he is highly medicated for mental illness and was simply struggling to express his thoughts properly? Maybe he was nervous that he was on television and misspoke?

Nope. Must be because he's lazy and unemployed.
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