Neoliberal Democrat: http://politicaltest.net/en/test/result/110603

(August 30, 2016 at 2:01 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Neoliberal Democrat: http://politicaltest.net/en/test/result/110603

I wonder how this test does compute with anything it spews up. I would call you a centrist based on the actual bars. It seems off on so many levels.

My results;

http://politicaltest.net/en/test/result/110624

"You are Cosmopolitan Social Democrat. 9 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 6 percent are more extremist than you"

I must be quite extreme to be within the 7% most leftist extremists haha

(August 29, 2016 at 10:47 pm)c172 Wrote: http://politicaltest.net/en/test/result/110372

I don't understand your results. You get called neo-con despite scoring strongly secularist, and have very slight authoritarian tendencies. Considering jesus and authoritarianism figure prominently in the movement.

Methinks this "test" is badly designed.

(August 30, 2016 at 2:53 pm)abaris Wrote:

(August 30, 2016 at 2:01 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Neoliberal Democrat: http://politicaltest.net/en/test/result/110603

I wonder how this test does compute with anything it spews up. I would call you a centrist based on the actual bars. It seems off on so many levels.

It is a very bad test to be honest. The amount of negatively phrased questions can put anyone off their game for a start (reminds me of when I passed my test at Cisco), plus there were certain questions that were leaning in one sense and towards another, going from one extreme to the other so you will get a mixed rating.

(August 30, 2016 at 3:17 pm)RobertE Wrote: plus there were certain questions that were leaning in one sense and towards another, going from one extreme to the other so you will get a mixed rating.

I stayed neutral on most of the loaded ones. Still puts me left of centre on most issues. Doesn't come as a big surprise, since I consider myself to be left of centre. Not on all economical issues, but on all social ones. I started out as a conservative, but conservative meant something different when I was young. Now it's something to puke over on most issues. So I don't think I changed as much as the definitions have changed.

I'm in the middle of answering the questions right now, and the test is to my mind, horrifically designed. My problems with it:

1) Vaguely worded questions which are far too open ended, e.g. "The infrastructure works best, if the responsibility lies with competing undertakings." I understand this question to mean "is competition a good thing in all areas?" but frankly the wording is so bad and ungrammatical that you could probably argue for any definition of the question you want. Or take, "It would be good for the public authorities to pay their debts no longer." What is this I don't even... Frankly if the original framer of this test is that bad at English she shouldn't have bothered (or gotten the services of a translator).
2) The answers are badly framed: "I fully agree; I agree in part; neutral; I disagree; I strongly disagree". First of all, if you're looking for opinion it's generally a bad idea to give a neutral response, it gives an easy out for those who don't want to formulate an answer. Second the agree/disagree answers aren't symmetrical, for example the middle disagreement is a total one whereas the middle agreement is partial, and the outright agreement and disagreement have adverbs which don't match correctly (she should have used fully or strongly for both not one for each). That will prejudice your answers.
3) Too many questions are repeated. I've answered five questions on religion all of which are variations on the same question, viz "should the state be secular or have a religious basis?". Repeating your question over and over will just lead to extreme polars showing more often than they should.
4) There are questions where the answer is obvious. For example "Redistribution should happen from the top to the bottom." when taken at face value should have only one response, "of course, it'd be stupid to expect poor people to pay for stuff they don't use". What I think the question is meant to ask is "should the state intervene to redistribute wealth from the rich to the poor?"
5) Outright misleading questions: "We should reduce our living standards massively to protect the environment." Putting the word "massively" will prejudice answers to this question automatically. Now we may need to make massive changes to our way of life to stave off global warming, but asking a question like that in a survey is pretty much a red flag that the questioner is deliberately looking to skew their results in a certain way. Another example "Even small delicts should be punished rigorously to prevent rampant crime." Leading question.

Completing the test it calls me social democrat with a score of:
http://politicaltest.net/en/test/image/110656

Now what stops me from being a "cosmopolitan" social democrat? The fact that I think humanity has a responsibility to the general environment? The fact that I'm more lefty than Divinity? Oh and I answered all the religious questions as perfect secularist yet I don't get a perfect score there?

This survey isn't worth a shit.

Edit: By the way, I'm out and out socialist (though I do see a point in allowing for profit organisations to provide wants). For example last time I took the political compass test, I scored a -9.5;-10.0, pretty much as far left libertarian you can get.

(August 30, 2016 at 12:01 am)Whateverist Wrote: Took the short form because lazy.  Now I'll go back and see how others scored.  I see I am the anti-Bella.  Shock!

[img]http://politicaltest.net/en/test/result/110386[/img]

You score mildly pacifist, strongly anti-autoritarian (anarchism isn't the opposite of authoritarianism, they don't really work on the same scale) and anti-reactionary (visionary-reactionary?), and yet you come off as a patriotic SD? Horrible, horrible test.

(August 29, 2016 at 10:49 pm)TheRealJoeFish Wrote: And, wow... I didn't necessarily think the question set was going to produce something I thought made sense, but... I found this scarily close to how I'd describe myself.



Also: Cosmopolitan Social Democrat. I don't know if that's an established political classification, a translation of a German political party name, or something made up on the spot, but damn I think that's a pretty good descriptor of my political values.

(August 30, 2016 at 1:04 am)Gemini Wrote:

What's the difference between Cosmopolitan SD and SD Cosmopolitan? Honestly, the more I look the worst the test gets.

(August 30, 2016 at 3:41 pm)abaris Wrote:

(August 30, 2016 at 3:17 pm)RobertE Wrote: plus there were certain questions that were leaning in one sense and towards another, going from one extreme to the other so you will get a mixed rating.

I stayed neutral on most of the loaded ones. Still puts me left of centre on most issues. Doesn't come as a big surprise, since I consider myself to be left of centre. Not on all economical issues, but on all social ones. I started out as a conservative, but conservative meant something different when I was young. Now it's something to puke over on most issues. So I don't think I changed as much as the definitions have changed.

When I did the test (and in spite of what happened recently in a couple of threads), I did answer those questions with sincerity and I fully understood them. I know from experience (as seen on French tv, that people have to switch to another way of thinking when a question is asked with a negative) that you just have to concentrate and read each question thoroughly and honestly as you can. The graphic is just simple code and I don't it bares any resemblance to reality (though I could be wrong.)