Hi.

I am not going to reveal my age. Nor will I reveal my religious views, or lack thereof. I'll let you guess. as I post more to the fora here.

No, I am not trolling (in the sense I am trying to incite arguments).

I found this site using the AltaVista search engine. I was not referred here by a particular person.

I am male, middle-aged, twice-married. A disabled veteran (epilepsy ended my career).

I enjoy calligraphy, ham radio, and playing music. (I won't comment on my alleged level of accomplishment in the first and third.) I enjoy conversation about all sorts of topics. (There are few topics which I would find "offensive.") I read a great deal (primarily Science-Fiction, Fantasy, and Romances). I am the alleged president of my community's local Friends of the Library organization. (My wife holds most of the other positions.)

My education and affiliations will also remain a mystery for now, beyond membership in the Disabled American Veterans organization.

My family is quite small, consisting of my wife, and my son from my first marriage. My father was killed in Vietnam when I was seven, my mother was also in the service then, but later went to college, obtaining a degree in Psychology. She is currently an Irish folk musician, and plays at O'Hare Airport. My sister was also in the service, then went to college for Veterinary Science, and now works for a Hollywood company that gives military instruction to actors and movie companies for authenticity in military subjects.

Mostly I will read here; I probably won't post much. I doubt I could hold up much in the way of learning against either atheist/rationalist/free-thinker members, nor theistic apology or philosophy. This is mostly an education experience for me.

It seems quite disingenuous to me to withhold your very basic belief system. No one here needs an in-depth report or anything.


But I suppose I will welcome you anyway. For now.

You were affiliated with the army and you are now affiliated with the library.

You are (likely) in your 40's... how much more accuracy would I want?

Hello... why so convoluted when you say these things anyway? Won't reveal age, yet you do... won't reveal education and affiliations, when you have... not trolling, and use a non-google search engine...

And also use large text size for some reason unknown to me... since this is supposedly for your education, I'll add something useful:

When posting on a forum, the best way to remain anonymous is to *not* say you won't say something. That creates intrigue. Simply do not say it, and if it is asked of you: dodge it. Be bland, and nobody will care for a second taste.

(May 25, 2011 at 8:06 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: It seems quite disingenuous to me to withhold your very basic belief system. No one here needs an in-depth report or anything.


But I suppose I will welcome you anyway. For now.

It is partly a childish guessing game (can a religious or non-religious person actually out the views of a third party by inference or statements alone) and partly for defense (having been subjected to ad hominen attacks by both atheist and religious alike).

It is not disingenuous, however.
–adjective: lacking in frankness, candor, or sincerity; falsely or hypocritically ingenuous; insincere: Her excuse was rather disingenuous.

I was quite frank: I wouldn't say, for now. It is quite sincere. It is not hypocritical.

Thank you for your provisional welcome.

As is usual, dictionaries are used not for what they are (a list of words), but as a sacrosanct ultimate destiny that decides truth and judges as a god.

Some would say to just ignore me... I'm our 'resident crazy'



I say just chill out, relax, and smile... and you won't be made the mare of Bad Horse

(May 25, 2011 at 8:13 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: You were affiliated with the army and you are now affiliated with the library.

You are (likely) in your 40's... how much more accuracy would I want?

Hello... why so convoluted when you say these things anyway? Won't reveal age, yet you do... won't reveal education and affiliations, when you have... not trolling, and use a non-google search engine...

And also use large text size for some reason unknown to me... since this is supposedly for your education, I'll add something useful:

When posting on a forum, the best way to remain anonymous is to *not* say you won't say something. That creates intrigue. Simply do not say it, and if it is asked of you: dodge it. Be bland, and nobody will care for a second taste.

Didn't say I was in the Army (though that could be inferred). I use a larger type-font because of my less-than-perfect vision. Plus it stands out and makes me feel self-important.

I am not sure I can be bland, though maybe I can be blah. Or blonde, with some peroxide.

I did not reveal my education (beyond inferred military training), nor my age (you missed), nor my affiliations beyond the DAV and library.

I suppose in a sense, everyone trolls on fora: if everyone agreed about everything, there wouldn't be much to talk about. The sense of trolling I mean is I will not deliberately go out of the way to be insulting or cast aspersions on another's person, education, or credentials. Doesn't mean I won't call fouls when I see 'em, nor does it mean I am perfect and will never be guilty of the same.

But I'd rather read here than tell you what I am not going to say about me. Y'all's conversation is much more interesting than mine.

(May 25, 2011 at 8:15 pm)Anymouse Wrote:

(May 25, 2011 at 8:06 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: It seems quite disingenuous to me to withhold your very basic belief system. No one here needs an in-depth report or anything.

But I suppose I will welcome you anyway. For now.

It is partly a childish guessing game (can a religious or non-religious person actually out the views of a third party by inference or statements alone) and partly for defense (having been subjected to ad hominen attacks by both atheist and religious alike).

It is not disingenuous, however.
–adjective: lacking in frankness, candor, or sincerity; falsely or hypocritically ingenuous; insincere: Her excuse was rather disingenuous.

I was quite frank: I wouldn't say, for now. It is quite sincere. It is not hypocritical.

Thank you for your provisional welcome.

You're welcome. I think the term was fitting - even according to the definition you posted. However, since I don't really care that much. I will digress and simply say that you will probably at least be interesting, if not another Statler Waldorf. Hopefully the former.

Anymouse Wrote:]Plus it stands out and makes me feel self-important.

'Army' is my general term for military. You could have been air force, navy, marines, <whatever nonsense designation because Susan knows we need more useless names>... and I'll still sum all of the forces stuffed inside the groups as an 'army'.

It also makes you look 'holier-than-thou'... which is partly where cinjin's comment came from.

True, but you did infact reveal some of your affiliations

Good... then you aren't a troll as I worry about them. The large text still annoys me... but you must be on a PC. I'm on a mac and I usually increase the font size on my webpages by using command+. Which means that while the text is overlarge for everyone: it is especially large for me.

My conversations typically are more interesting than everyone else's put together... but that's only because I'm the most beautiful, most loved, most lots of positive things as I see them, being in existence

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(May 25, 2011 at 8:30 pm)Cinjin Cain Wrote: if not another Statler Waldorf.

Woah Cinjin... even for me that would be out of line

Welcome to the forums. Feel free to share, not share, lurk or post as much as you like.

(May 25, 2011 at 8:33 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: 'Army' is my general term for military. You could have been air force, navy, marines, <whatever nonsense designation because Susan knows we need more useless names>... and I'll still sum all of the forces stuffed inside the groups as an 'army'.

Okay, smaller type. I guess we could call all the services the Air Force. Whether or not they have flying ships and tanks.

Thanks for the welcome; this is quite an interesting site.