(September 24, 2016 at 8:48 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(September 24, 2016 at 7:55 pm)Lek Wrote: If God does not intervene how have you come across this knowledge?

I must confess I believe I have experienced a Divine Intervention. It did not change a single external/physical aspect of my objective life. But it changed a great deal inside me. Without going into detail, that was the authoring of my experiential faith, which transformed believing perhaps there is a God to knowing God exists (omnipresent awareness) and I am interpenetrated (transparent) to it's mind which permeates the universe as the background field that all phenomena vibrates upon. It is perfectly still, inter-penetrating and permeating everything in the universe. It was both an awesome and terrifying experience and I could only withstand the experience for less than a literal minute. And when I contracted out of fear, the experience left me.

This sounds like a traumatic psychological attack on the ego from which you have yet to recover. You have concocted an incredible science fantasy to reconcile with reality what may simply be the right side of your brain being dominant for a moment. This overwhelming experience has been reported by meditators, LSD users, and stroke victims. Try reading "My Stroke of Insight" by Jill Bolte Taylor PhD, a brain scientist who had a stroke and can now almost at will switch from using one side of her brain over the other. Her revelations sound as mystical as any yogi's but at least we know why and so does she. Good read.

In such cases, all I can ask is what is most likely:

(1) The creator of our reality, if there is one, decided to interact with you personally, leaving no evidence, knowing it would sound exactly like your brain had a glitch.

(2) Your brain had a glitch.

I'm not saying which it is. But one seems a lot more likely than the other, wouldn't you agree? Without remaining evidence, how can even the person who experienced it tell the difference anyway?

This brings up a point I've mentioned before: the sceptic is prepared to try and aim their methodology inwards as well as outwards.

I have to admit I had a very similar enlightenment experience in 1978 on LSD. It was so real and overwhelming that I spent the next 5 years in yogi lala land trying to reconcile that experience with the formerly atheistic world view I held. After chasing my tail for many years I realized the problem. The acid had worn off years before. Back to reality. There is a reason we need our left brain.

Wow! Quite a trip you went on

It is a weird concept, being sceptical of yourself. But it's certainly valid. I can see a situation that could occur where emotionally you believe something based on an experience, but logically you find it unsupported and irrational. If the emotion is strong enough, it tends to win. The logic needs amplifying (or the emotion calming) before reality can seep in again, I guess.

(September 30, 2016 at 4:54 am)robvalue Wrote: Wow! Quite a trip you went on

Anybody remember Purple Dragon blotter acid? Good shit it was. Luckily, LSD use is generally a self limiting habit. If at all a habit. How many times can you undergo emotional and psychological shake ups and breakdowns for recreational purposes?

A bit random, but I did Socratise my wife a little bit. I got her to realise that when a place "feels haunted", you're actually just projecting your prior belief that the place is haunted (or that it's the kind of place you tend to believe is haunted).

“Based upon my experience with losing my left mind, I whole-heartedly believe that the feeling of deep inner peace is neurological circuitry located in our right brain.”  Jill Bolte Taylor

(September 30, 2016 at 2:17 am)ED scissor hands Wrote: a loving God, I believed the Christian bible and the words to be true and placed them into my life style, , for over thirty years ,but then I do think if God loves us, why would he use a punishment so awful that it be torment and hell for ever,
like say for I,E,
if I believed in God and my mother did not, she would go to hell, and god would love me over her, ? is this justified or morally correct,
I love my mother, and I think God should also ,she is not a bad person, and she has sacrificed all to raise me, ...huh.....?

By the way, welcome to the forum!

Gods is like a manifestation of brutality and idealism, according to scriptures, so, no wonder people give up on faith and are trying to embrace idea of total annihilation.

I personally don't see a point in immortality, even if Gods exist, because you gotta become a masochist in some sense, to pay up for divine rewards.

it is easy to fall for this when you are brought up in it from young and your whole family and life is surrounded by this and so , until we mature and get older , then we can think for our selves if we don't fear going to hell or questioning God and the bible and so I came to see the truth after many years being envolved in this religion, and its convincing and at the time, it seem to be the truth and the right thing, but my eyes are opened now after I have researched this until there was the dead end at the end of the road , then I figured out the reason why it is a great hook for people and easy bait, it works on your emotions and feelings , but not on reason and thinking and people do not want to think , they just want emotional and feelings to be felt, so it gets really deep I was in it really deep , and that's how I found out the truth of information to use my mind for thinking and logic comprehension