(September 30, 2016 at 1:54 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(September 30, 2016 at 1:21 pm)Primordial Bisque Wrote: It's the definition of a classic jailor, or someone who's sole purpose is domination. Shackles are shackles, whether you're being whipped and burned or fed ice cream cake.

And if outside equals dissolution?

You just described the prison walls. Why does "outside" exist? Shouldn't a supreme being, responsible for all of creation, be able to remedy that problem? Or, is it left as is to provide an effective means of containment?

(September 30, 2016 at 2:06 pm)Primordial Bisque Wrote:

(September 30, 2016 at 1:54 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: And if outside equals dissolution?

You just described the prison walls. Why does "outside" exist? Shouldn't a supreme being, responsible for all of creation, be able to remedy that problem? Or, is it left as is to provide an effective means of containment?

"Outside" exists because the universe is a finite void space within an infinite, matter saturated space.

Nice stable (spherical) borders of a vibratory chamber makes nice stable internal standing waves (spherical) for building things, with atoms.

The presence and action of the external saturated space (of God) to the internal void space of the universe is as a mother to it's developing child in the womb.

(September 30, 2016 at 2:12 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Nice stable (spherical) borders of a vibratory chamber....

I don't know where you keep getting this "sphere" shit from, but it's well known and well established that the planes look like this:

(September 30, 2016 at 2:22 pm)LostLocke Wrote:

(September 30, 2016 at 2:12 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Nice stable (spherical) borders of a vibratory chamber....

I don't know where you keep getting this "sphere" shit from, but it's well known and well established that the planes look like this:

The spherical wave-form of the universe comes from the spatial relationship the original infinite has with it's own material. No matter where you go or what point/s you occupy, the substance of the Infinite is all around you/itself equally in all directions.

There are metaversal planes of infninte universal spheres as the first division of the Infinite is directly in equal half by a plane. Each plane contains infinite identical spheres in the horizontal direction. New planes are created in a single direction leaving a plane of universes behind every instant.

Inside a universe, space-time is further divided into 6 nested toroidal regions. Our region that patters for this specific type of material (of 6 possible types according to the standard model) is in or on the membrane surface of a torus. The astral realm is a torus surrounding that one. There is another half a torus surrounding both of those and this completes it's self on the top hemisphere of a universe...where all the antimatter is.

It's like we are in a room of a house only the room is so big we cannot see the walls or door....and there are 5 other rooms.

(September 30, 2016 at 2:12 pm)Arkilogue Wrote:

(September 30, 2016 at 2:06 pm)Primordial Bisque Wrote: You just described the prison walls. Why does "outside" exist? Shouldn't a supreme being, responsible for all of creation, be able to remedy that problem? Or, is it left as is to provide an effective means of containment?

"Outside" exists because the universe is a finite void space within an infinite, matter saturated space.

Nice stable (spherical) borders of a vibratory chamber makes nice stable internal standing waves (spherical) for building things, with atoms.

The presence and action of the external saturated space (of God) to the internal void space of the universe is as a mother to it's developing child in the womb.

I'll give you an A for stylistic writing, but it's still borderline science fiction mixed with new age thought. Labeling what is outside of the observable universe as God isn't any more correct than claiming that the Sun and Moon are two gods doing eternal battle.

(September 30, 2016 at 2:42 pm)Primordial Bisque Wrote:

(September 30, 2016 at 2:12 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: "Outside" exists because the universe is a finite void space within an infinite, matter saturated space.

Nice stable (spherical) borders of a vibratory chamber makes nice stable internal standing waves (spherical) for building things, with atoms.

The presence and action of the external saturated space (of God) to the internal void space of the universe is as a mother to it's developing child in the womb.

I'll give you an A for stylistic writing, but it's still borderline science fiction mixed with new age thought. Labeling what is outside of the observable universe as God isn't any more correct than claiming that the Sun and Moon are two gods doing eternal battle.

It's an absolute, an all consuming fire and it still exists forever above and below, having generated infinite universes without diminishing itself.

It also has very discernible quantum properties before the inflation of universes: It's all around itself equally forever in all directions (spherical nature) it is at the center of itself everywhere (point nature) and it exists as a field in equilibrium (field nature).

Without representing the field, the simplest representation of "God's Name" is a circle around a dot.
If you are not familiar with the circumpunct, now would be a good time to look it up.

http://gnosticwarrior.com/circumpunct.html

(September 30, 2016 at 2:42 pm)Primordial Bisque Wrote: I'll give you an A for stylistic writing, but it's still borderline science fiction mixed with new age thought. Labeling what is outside of the observable universe as God isn't any more correct than claiming that the Sun and Moon are two gods doing eternal battle.

The idea of the primordial, substantive, infinite before creation is one of the oldest and common conceptions of God/the prior to universe state found through antiquity.

It is not new.

(September 30, 2016 at 1:45 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(September 30, 2016 at 1:12 pm)Lek Wrote: Why?

What part of "from which there is no escape" can possibly not be evil?

Good point. If you gather all the verses that apply to hell, there is a good case for a hell in which a person still has the option to choose salvation or reject it. Some after an appropriate time of existence experiencing life without God would cease to exist and some could choose faith and go to eternal life. This has also been accepted view since the early days of the church. It we have a free will now, why take it away later and force us to accept his gift. In my study of the bible, I don't see where God has made a clear statement concerning this except that we do have the option to choose him or reject him.

According to King David, there is no escape from the presence of God.

Psalm 139:8 "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there."


Say God is a gigantic fully charged battery and I'm a little one....what happens if I hook up with inverse polarity? Fried.

The heavenly state is "with current", the hellish state is like "cross current".

Orientation of consciousness is important.

This all sounds like the kind of profound ineffability that's simply crying out for a good effing.