(October 20, 2016 at 4:46 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Well, seems to me that free speech shouldn't consist of "if you don't like it, leave." What's so wrong with "If you don't like it, speak up"?

You are speaking up. Who is suppressing that?

"If you don't like it, speak up" is precisely the culture we are fostering, IMO.

(October 20, 2016 at 4:19 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 2:13 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Not my fault I'm tubby, it's all that delicious eggnog.

You should be the fourth teletubby.

TibbyTubby.

Lol I just realized that there is already four teletubbies.

But then I thought "Fuck it, Tinky Winky doesn't count. He's a cunt for no reason at all."

(October 20, 2016 at 6:02 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 4:46 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Well, seems to me that free speech shouldn't consist of "if you don't like it, leave." What's so wrong with "If you don't like it, speak up"?

You are speaking up.  Who is suppressing that?

"If you don't like it, speak up" is precisely the culture we are fostering, IMO.

No one is suppressing me, of course, and I'm not laying that charge at Staff's feet. I was simply replying to Brewer's "bitchers ought to leave" thing.

And I'll reiterate the point: inviting people to leave if they don't agree with the majority is not really conducive to the free expression of thought. The invitation may not come from the Staff -- and it certainly hasn't in this case -- but it is counter to the aims of the forum as the owner himself has laid out in this very thread.

(October 20, 2016 at 6:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 6:02 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You are speaking up.  Who is suppressing that?

"If you don't like it, speak up" is precisely the culture we are fostering, IMO.

No one is suppressing me, of course, and I'm not laying that charge at Staff's feet. I was simply replying to Brewer's "bitchers ought to leave" thing.

And I'll reiterate the point: inviting people to leave if they don't agree with the majority is not really conducive to the free expression of thought. The invitation may not come from the Staff -- and it certainly hasn't in this case -- but it is counter to the aims of the forum as the owner himself has laid out in this very thread.

See, here's the thing Thump - Brewer's got every right to speak his mind about it as well. Posters here don't need to subscribe to the staff's ideals in the matter either, they're free to speak their mind how they so choose.

(October 20, 2016 at 6:28 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 6:24 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: No one is suppressing me, of course, and I'm not laying that charge at Staff's feet. I was simply replying to Brewer's "bitchers ought to leave" thing.

And I'll reiterate the point: inviting people to leave if they don't agree with the majority is not really conducive to the free expression of thought. The invitation may not come from the Staff -- and it certainly hasn't in this case -- but it is counter to the aims of the forum as the owner himself has laid out in this very thread.

See, here's the thing Thump - Brewer's got every right to speak his mind about it as well.  Posters here don't need to subscribe to the staff's ideals in the matter either, they're free to speak their mind how they so choose.

Of course. But that doesn't mean they get a free pass on critique, and that's what I gave him: fair, polite, and succinct critique.

Where's the problem here?

(October 20, 2016 at 4:35 pm)abaris Wrote: Oh, it's one of the rightwing talking points. It's the narrative circulating among his ilk. So I do think that's real. Uninformed real on an imbecile level, but still real.

It's to make them feel better over their own resentments if they can push the Old Ultra brutal to the other side. So as not having to run for the nearest mirror.

Perhaps, but there are plenty of other things he clearly says to agitate people, like how he conveniently started arguing cultural relativism in order to argue over rape, or how he admitted that he called people bigots just to provoke them. He gets off on it, and if he doesn't fall under the "no trolling" rule, it's useless IMO.

In fact, I'll bet if he reads this thread or sees how he has stirred the pot, he'll have to go jerk off.

(October 20, 2016 at 4:32 pm)c172 Wrote: Rat bastard this stupid computer and its affinity for the dp.

Your computer loves double penetration??

Oh I've missed all these dramas.

'Tis a good thing.

(October 20, 2016 at 6:30 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(October 20, 2016 at 6:28 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: See, here's the thing Thump - Brewer's got every right to speak his mind about it as well.  Posters here don't need to subscribe to the staff's ideals in the matter either, they're free to speak their mind how they so choose.

Of course.  But that doesn't mean they get a free pass on critique, and that's what I gave him: fair, polite, and succinct critique.

Where's the problem here?

No one is getting a pass on the critiques... that is why the critiques are happening