The trinity bullshit is just evidence that polytheism was still interesting enough to sprinkle in a dose.

(June 7, 2011 at 2:12 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: Being a brit, all this stuff seems a bit weird, so I thought I'd browse a Christianity site. OMFG, ... I take it many of you have seen this turd, but I think a nice link to insanity is fit here.

On a tangential note, thanks for sending all those crazy Puritans over here 400 years ago.

j/k

(June 13, 2011 at 2:30 pm)Epimethean Wrote: The trinity bullshit is just evidence that polytheism was still interesting enough to sprinkle in a dose.

Three entities being one entity in essence is not polytheism at all.

Oh yes it is, since they can operate independently.

If he's a corporation, he still has members. LOL.

(June 13, 2011 at 2:30 pm)Epimethean Wrote: The trinity bullshit is just evidence that polytheism was still interesting enough to sprinkle in a dose.

I started another thread on this topic "Trinity Nonsense":
http://atheistforums.org/thread-7266.html

(June 13, 2011 at 2:57 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Oh yes it is, since they can operate independently.

If he's a corporation, he still has members. LOL.

Sure they fulfill different roles and purposes but where does it say they operate completely independently? I think that's an oversimplification.

So, when Jesus dies, God is dead at that time, too? I really must phone Nietzsche!

(June 13, 2011 at 3:13 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Sure they fulfill different roles and purposes but where does it say they operate completely independently? I think that's an oversimplification.

Try reading the three "Synoptic" Gospels (Matt, Mark, Luke) just by themselves without reading John.

You will be hard pressed to come up with any scriptural justification for the belief that Jesus is God. The Jesus of the earliest Gospels was a being inferior to, independent of and subordinate to Yahweh. Consider:

Jesus speaks of Yahweh in the 3rd person.
Jesus prays to Yahweh in the 2nd person.
Jesus makes it clear, not his will but "thy" will be done, speaking to Yahweh.
Jesus claims that he doesn't know what the Father alone knows (the hour of his second coming).
A booming voice speaks to Jesus in the second person.
A booming voice speaks of Jesus in the third person.
Jesus asks why Yahweh had forsaken him on the cross.

Seems like independent operation to me.

Quote:When I make bold assertions I am asked to provide evidence to support them, I'd expect you to do the same.

AS you cannot demonstrate that there are any fucking gods, Waldork, that really limits your choices. Religion ( ALL religion.....even yours) are human inventions. The reason for that is simple. God only exists in your imagination.

When you can demonstrate that your god is not merely a figment of your limited imagination then I will consider your position. Not before.

(June 13, 2011 at 3:28 pm)Epimethean Wrote: So, when Jesus dies, God is dead at that time, too? I really must phone Nietzsche!

You seem to not realize that Jesus rose from the dead, His dvine nature never died. God is in three persons, each person is devine, but there is only one God. It is not polytheism for that very reason, the teaching is clear, there is only one God.