(December 6, 2016 at 7:14 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(December 6, 2016 at 7:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Oh, my.... looks like Drumpf is full of shit.  What a surprise!

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/steelwor...rier-deal/



Hope you learned your lesson never to trust a republicunt, pal.

This country will be a lot economically stronger in 4 years than it is now. You will deny it though.

Nope it will be you doing the denying when trump destroys the economy .Unemployment rates skyrocket trade wars break out all over the first world. And business die left and right because trump and his lackeys are all idiots .

But as stand in the ruins of your home cradling your last can of alphegetti and a bottle of aquifinia the only  edible substance for miles in furher trumps America .From horde of alt right wackos  and white power scum you'll still be cursing democrats and minorities for all your problems (though neither will exist) and frothing you whole hearted love for your dear leader

The economy could look pretty good in four years. But it's tough to say for sure. We're due for a market correction and that could come fairly soon. It might be a relatively smooth one if the fed raises interest rates this month. But if the markets continue to rise and we really are in another housing bubble, it's a question of when either --or both-- reach a peak. If the economy tanks in 2017, it could be on the rebound in 2020 and Trump would need only blame the outgoing administration for saddling him with a ticking time bomb and boast that he turned things around.

But some moves and decisions can take time to develop. Trump just announced that a Japanese business agreed to a $50 billion investment and 50,000 jobs in the US. This is likely to mean a merger of Sprint and T-Mobile (which had been blocked by the Obama administration on anti-trust concerns). How soon will that money and those jobs become available? Even if this goes through and things go smoothly, it might still take a few years for the benefits to become obvious. If the economy is weak in the meantime, we could end up with a different president starting 2021 with an economic boost that helps his/her approval ratings while Trump goes down as a failure.

Timing is very important and history shows us that the economy is unpredictable and can make a president seem like a disaster or a legend. Can Trump ride out an inevitable slump, and will his patience be rewarded with a timely recovery?

(December 6, 2016 at 8:49 pm)Orochi Wrote:

(December 6, 2016 at 7:14 pm)KUSA Wrote: This country will be a lot economically stronger in 4 years than it is now. You will deny it though.

Nope it will be you doing the denying when trump destroys the economy .Unemployment rates skyrocket trade wars break out all over the first world. And business die left and right because trump and his lackeys are all idiots .

But as stand in the ruins of your home cradling your last can of alphegetti and a bottle of aquifinia the only  edible substance for miles in furher trumps America .From horde of alt right wackos  and white power scum you'll still be cursing democrats and minorities for all your problems (though neither will exist) and frothing you whole hearted love for your dear leader

White power? Are you a SJW?

(December 6, 2016 at 9:18 pm)Tonus Wrote: The economy could look pretty good in four years.  But it's tough to say for sure.  We're due for a market correction and that could come fairly soon.  It might be a relatively smooth one if the fed raises interest rates this month.  But if the markets continue to rise and we really are in another housing bubble, it's a question of when either --or both-- reach a peak.  If the economy tanks in 2017, it could be on the rebound in 2020 and Trump would need only blame the outgoing administration for saddling him with a ticking time bomb and boast that he turned things around.

But some moves and decisions can take time to develop.  Trump just announced that a Japanese business agreed to a $50 billion investment and 50,000 jobs in the US.  This is likely to mean a merger of Sprint and T-Mobile (which had been blocked by the Obama administration on anti-trust concerns).  How soon will that money and those jobs become available?  Even if this goes through and things go smoothly, it might still take a few years for the benefits to become obvious.  If the economy is weak in the meantime, we could end up with a different president starting 2021 with an economic boost that helps his/her approval ratings while Trump goes down as a failure.

Timing is very important and history shows us that the economy is unpredictable and can make a president seem like a disaster or a legend.  Can Trump ride out an inevitable slump, and will his patience be rewarded with a timely recovery?

What are the odds of said investment being actually close to even 10% of what's being trumpeted? When ordinary politicians lie through their teeth on this kind of stuff (for example Irish politicians often fold in construction work as new jobs when announcing a factory being set up, despite construction companies not hiring anybody for the job) what chance a patological liar like Trump manages to be on the same planet as reality?

Frankly I bet this "investment" will be a lot smaller and deliver a scant few thousand non- permanent contract jobs. Unless it's a government contract being given without tender, where the only addition will be a lot of skimming and some nice fat backhanders to Trump and his team.

(December 6, 2016 at 7:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Oh, my.... looks like Drumpf is full of shit.  What a surprise!

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/steelwor...rier-deal/

Quote:Steelworkers Union president slams Trump for ‘lying his ass off’ about Carrier deal

Quote:The president of the steelworkers union representing Carrier employees said Donald Trump “lied his ass off” when he boasted about saving jobs at the Indianapolis, Indiana plant last Thursday.
Chuck Jones, who heads United Steelworkers 1999, told the Washington Post he originally felt optimistic about the deal the president-elect struck with United Technologies, the parent company that owns Carrier. But when he learned that that 550 members were still losing their jobs, he assumed Trump would use the Dec. 1 meeting to explain where his team fell short.
“But he got up there, and, for whatever reason, lied his ass off,” Jones said.

Hope you learned your lesson never to trust a republicunt, pal.

So, union is butthurt that Trump accomplished a lot more than they did themselves.

(December 7, 2016 at 5:39 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: What are the odds of said investment being actually close to even 10% of what's being trumpeted?

It depends on how it's being invested. If it's being sunk into infrastructure, they could wind up close to --or over-- that total. Without any details, it's just a big number.

I'm more interested in how they plan to add 50,000 new jobs. If this offer is being made on the assumption that the Trump administration will allow the merger between Sprint and T-Mobile, how would they add that many jobs? Don't most mergers --especially ones of this size-- reduce the workforce to eliminate redundancy? Presumably, 50,000 new jobs in a large telecom company are not going to be minimum wage burger flippers or janitors. If they can actually deliver that many jobs I wouldn't care how much of that $50 billion actually gets invested. But right now that's also just a big number.

(December 7, 2016 at 8:58 am)alpha male Wrote:

(December 6, 2016 at 7:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Oh, my.... looks like Drumpf is full of shit.  What a surprise!

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/12/steelwor...rier-deal/



Hope you learned your lesson never to trust a republicunt, pal.

So, union is butthurt that Trump accomplished a lot more than they did themselves.

If by more you mean nothing then yes

already the back peddling  and excuses begin I bet if he had only saved 1 job the trump fan boys would be heralding this as the greatest thing since sliced bread fuck it's effectiveness

oh and of course the fact trump lied to there faces doesn't bother them at all

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(December 6, 2016 at 9:18 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(December 6, 2016 at 8:49 pm)Orochi Wrote: Nope it will be you doing the denying when trump destroys the economy .Unemployment rates skyrocket trade wars break out all over the first world. And business die left and right because trump and his lackeys are all idiots .

But as stand in the ruins of your home cradling your last can of alphegetti and a bottle of aquifinia the only  edible substance for miles in furher trumps America .From horde of alt right wackos  and white power scum you'll still be cursing democrats and minorities for all your problems (though neither will exist) and frothing you whole hearted love for your dear leader

White power? Are you a SJW?

Does it matter

(December 7, 2016 at 2:16 pm)Orochi Wrote:

(December 7, 2016 at 8:58 am)alpha male Wrote: So, union is butthurt that Trump accomplished a lot more than they did themselves.

If by more you mean nothing then yes

already the back peddling  and excuses begin I bet if he had only saved 1 job the trump fan boys would be heralding this as the greatest thing since sliced bread fuck it's effectiveness

oh and of course the fact trump lied to there faces doesn't bother them at all

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(December 6, 2016 at 9:18 pm)KUSA Wrote: White power? Are you a SJW?

Does it matter

Yes. SJWs are name calling retards.

I've been setting back cash for a couple of years now for the bubble to burst (it's been a strain, really going without now, I haven't bought a new pair of shoes in awhile, my pc is garbage, lol).  I bought my little plot and leased my options in the aftermath of the last crash, I plan to capitalize on the looming "next one" to an even greater extent.  I want to buy this entire county before I die. The tears and misery from all the trump signs and trump sign owners in my vicinity are exactly what I'm counting on. When they're forced to sell acreage for pennies on a dollar, like they were years ago, I'll be there, not leveraged to the hilt, sitting on liquid, just like the last time.

(December 7, 2016 at 4:51 pm)KUSA Wrote: Yes. SJWs are name calling retards.

You must be Poe-ing or impenetrable to irony.