(December 9, 2016 at 4:13 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote:

(December 9, 2016 at 12:51 am)Rhythm Wrote: Oh, and where do you propose to source your sound propositions from, exactly?  You know, those things required to be plugged into valid arguments so as to confer some measure of reliability that the conclusions are, themselves true?  Where did rationalism come from, how do we know it's a useful tool for assessing truth in the first place, how did we arrive at such a determination?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalism

IOW you have no idea how to proceed, with the absurd notion that empiricism...the idea that knowledge comes from -sense experience-...is ridiculous......... How did you find that link, did you reason out it's location, or did you look for it with your eyeballs, by tapping against keys with your fingers?

(December 9, 2016 at 9:18 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: You guys can talk crap all you want, but still have yet to justify the dump of reasonable suspicion...

You'd rather argue against your prejudicial visions of a crazy alt religous nut, than who i realy am... One who is suspicious, and concerned about what looks to be some shady goings on at a "family friendly" resturaunt. Too much so to dismiss as coincidence. If you payed attention at all to my previous posts you would also realised i'm not politicaly motivated.

I hope one of you will stop,  and take a step back to realise what you have done

Yeah, it's totally reasonable to suspect that people using code in e-mails are running a satanic pedophile ring based on nothing but empty speculation. Just like it's reasonable to think that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation and Obama is the secret Muslim anti-Christ. While you're at it, don't forget to buy your male vitality pills from Alex Jones.

And lol, did you actually go check with the water district if there was fluoride in the water? That's funny, because no one has ever denied that there is fluoride in the water. Ever. You know what else has fluoride? Toothpaste. Crest is trying to control your mind, too!

Excuse me. Obama is a secret atheist Muslim.

(November 29, 2016 at 2:35 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: What is with americans and believing stupid things as fact?

Because journalists like Dan Rather have repeatedly lied to us.

(December 9, 2016 at 9:30 am)Rhythm Wrote:

(December 9, 2016 at 4:13 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalism

IOW you have no idea how to proceed, with the absurd notion that empiricism...the idea that knowledge comes from -sense experience-...is ridiculous......... How did you find that link, did you reason out it's location, or did you look for it with your eyeballs, by tapping against keys with your fingers?

Empericism ALONE is absurb

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(December 9, 2016 at 10:07 am)Faith No More Wrote:

(December 9, 2016 at 9:18 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: You guys can talk crap all you want, but still have yet to justify the dump of reasonable suspicion...

You'd rather argue against your prejudicial visions of a crazy alt religous nut, than who i realy am... One who is suspicious, and concerned about what looks to be some shady goings on at a "family friendly" resturaunt. Too much so to dismiss as coincidence. If you payed attention at all to my previous posts you would also realised i'm not politicaly motivated.

I hope one of you will stop,  and take a step back to realise what you have done

Yeah, it's totally reasonable to suspect that people using code in e-mails are running a satanic pedophile ring based on nothing but empty speculation. Just like it's reasonable to think that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation and Obama is the secret Muslim anti-Christ. While you're at it, don't forget to buy your male vitality pills from Alex Jones.

And lol, did you actually go check with the water district if there was fluoride in the water? That's funny, because no one has ever denied that there is fluoride in the water. Ever. You know what else has fluoride? Toothpaste. Crest is trying to control your mind, too!

And that's why there are warning labels not to swallow the paste you dope, flouride is a registered poison.
http://fluoridealert.org/researchers/pesticide/

(December 9, 2016 at 11:21 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Because journalists like Dan Rather have repeatedly lied to us.

Like Fox News?

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(December 9, 2016 at 11:34 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: And that's why there are warning labels not to swallow the paste you dope, flouride is a registered poison.
http://fluoridealert.org/researchers/pesticide/

Yeah, because if you swallow a lot of it, it will affect your stomach, not your mind.  Something affected your mind, though.

And if we're talking about fluoride and it being put in the water, why did you link to an article about Sulfuryl Fluoride used as a pesticide?  You know they're not the same thing, right?

(December 9, 2016 at 11:34 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote:

(December 9, 2016 at 9:30 am)Rhythm Wrote: IOW you have no idea how to proceed, with the absurd notion that empiricism...the idea that knowledge comes from -sense experience-...is ridiculous.........  How did you find that link, did you reason out it's location, or did you look for it with your eyeballs,  by tapping against keys with your fingers?

Empericism ALONE is absurb

Soldat......"empiricism alone" is a redundant statement.  Empiricism is the idea that all knowledge comes from sense experience.  Again, do you have some other method, that doesn't rely on sense experience?  Rationalism doesn;t cut it, you need to supply the arguments with sound propositions.  The very act of considering an argument is a sensory experience, as awareness itself is a sensory experience. Rationalism is useless to a rock and it;s only as good, to us, as the quality of the propositions with which we supply it. OFC it's "alone" without sense we are blind, deaf, dumb and unaware. All the arguments in the world wouldn't help us arrive at truth anymore than they help a rock.

(you're trying to bitch about evidentialism, not empircism, most likely because you don't have any evidence, par for the course...and I;m not sure how you imagine yourself to be a champion of rationalism, here, in this thread, about hillary clintons nonexistent child sex ring........no one arrived at that suspicion rationally, least of all yourself.)

(December 9, 2016 at 9:18 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: You'd rather argue against your prejudicial visions of a crazy alt religous nut, than who i realy am...

What a lying piece of shit? I'm perfectly happy to acknowledge you as such.

Soldat Du Christ Wrote:

Aroura Wrote:None of that adds up, you have to twist and force your round peg into this square hole.
I can see you already have your mind made up, despite mountains of evidence that this whole thing was a hoax.then again, thousands of people still believe the big foot video and loch Ness pictures, even after the perpetrators admitted those were hoaxes as well.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. It exists, therfore anything I say about it must be true, right? I even have a for sale sign with my name on it. If I show you a picture with my sign on the bridge, will you send me money?

So you've been reduced to slanders then? Well you had a good run. I appreciate you trying. Just understand before you go back to your blissful ignorance that was just scratching the surface.

@rhythm it's called rationalism

What was the false and damaging statement about you that you consider slander?

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Soldat Du Christ Wrote:

Rhythm Wrote:Oh, and where do you propose to source your sound propositions from, exactly?  You know, those things required to be plugged into valid arguments so as to confer some measure of reliability that the conclusions are, themselves true?  Where did rationalism come from, how do we know it's a useful tool for assessing truth in the first place, how did we arrive at such a determination?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationalism

That would be better than whatever method you're using to reach your conclusions now. I hope you try it, you may be on to something. The cool kids combine rationalism and empiricism (rational empiricism) for the win, but one step at a time.

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Soldat Du Christ Wrote:And all your doing is talking trash, who is the better person here?

A person talking trash is superior to a person spreading slanderous lies.

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Soldat Du Christ Wrote:

FatAndFaithless Wrote:But what about the chemtrails and chinese mind control in the fluoride in our water?

It's a fact fluoride is in placer county (my county) water. I checked with the water district on that. You should check with your local water district also, it's what smart people do; investigate for themselfs. But you would'nt go out of your way to fact check these things would you? Naaaah... Just beleive whaver you want ;P

Sheesh, everybody knows there's fluoride in the water in a lot of places. It's often put there to reduce tooth decay. The nutjob part is that it's part of a mind control conspiracy, but that didn't even register with you.

(December 9, 2016 at 11:46 am)Faith No More Wrote:

(December 9, 2016 at 11:21 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Because journalists like Dan Rather have repeatedly lied to us.

Like Fox News?

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(December 9, 2016 at 11:34 am)Soldat Du Christ Wrote: And that's why there are warning labels not to swallow the paste you dope, flouride is a registered poison.
http://fluoridealert.org/researchers/pesticide/

Yeah, because if you swallow a lot of it, it will affect your stomach, not your mind.  Something affected your mind, though.

And if we're talking about fluoride and it being put in the water, why did you link to an article about Sulfuryl Fluoride used as a pesticide?  You know they're not the same thing, right?

All the different forms of flourite are toxic, more so than lead.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorite
And why would you guys think it has anything to do with mind control? And you call me crazy ooookaayyy...

And i've made it crystal clear by now my point is the exclusive use of empericism is absurd... One who doesn't trust there own rationality and leans only there senses...

I'm afraid i might get cancer if i keep returning to this thread so goodbye for now and take care