(January 3, 2017 at 8:22 am)chimp3 Wrote:

(January 3, 2017 at 3:46 am)Dragonslride1995: No this is not the case. I\m trying to write a book based on the personal experiences atheists have with Christians. IGHT everyone, lets say this one more time, This book has nothing to do with theology, it is meant to clean up the church and hold my fellow Christians to the same standard I hold myself too. And they hold others too. I will now be ignoring future posts like this one. Wrote: Now to respond to your opinions. Great on ya mate, you are entitled to them

Why would I or anyone else on this forum want to participate in your book? If I wanted to write a book about christian behavior towards atheists I am capable of doing so.

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@dragonspride1995: 

Your time on this forum is too short to judge whether your behavior towards atheists is exemplary. But , in my opinion Catholic Lady and neo-scholastic are two Christians to model after. Catholic Lady for her spiritual optimism and nonjudgemental personality. Neo-scholastic for his consideration of atheists ability to debate on a collegiate level.

If you don't want to participate that is perfectly fine, it was a request no one is forcing you too. This book is not going after your beliefs, it will have nothing to do with theism. The only point is to hold my side accountable to the standards we hold everyone else to using their own system, the testimony. In a attempt to Clean up the Church.

Fair enough OP.

Will your story about the dime thrower be in your book? If so, do you understand why she was doing that? Is your book simply to show the problem and not address the reasons for it, pr the solution? If so, I'll leave you to your own prerogative. I see no need to add my experiences as they will have zero bearing in someones decision making when balanced against the 'word of god'.

There should be plenty of info here.

http://atheistforums.org/forum-12.html

(December 31, 2016 at 5:01 am)Dragonspride1995 Wrote: Hello, By the title you should easily tell I don't belong here. 

All are welcome here, but if you say so....

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I would like to make a request on the atheist community.  Within Christianity we have what we call testimonies and that is our story, of how we were converted, and what events in our life lead up to our conversion. I would like to ask for negative experiences you guys have had with Christians. I'm toying around with writing a book on how Atheists are treated by Christians. 

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I don't think I've ever been treated poorly by any christian for being atheist. Of course as a rule, I keep my atheism to myself and I do not share it with my friends or coworkers. My religion is none of their business and theirs is none of mine.

I get the premiss you're trying to hit with your book idea and you could probably pull it off. But if you do it, I think your conclusions will be wrong. 
Here's the thing. Most people, are fundamentally good. Christian people, jewish people, muslim people, atheist people, even republicans and bass players. The vast majority of them, like 99.999% are fundamentally good people who don't wish bad on anyone are just trying to get from the cab to the curb without anyone dragging their bay or dropping a bomb on their street. But in every one of those groups you will always have a few who, well, kind of suck. 

So you could certainly find cases where certain individual christians treated atheists poorly and write a book about it. But what would that prove? I would strongly suspect that very few if any of those atheists would tell you that the way they were treated by individual christians is what led them to atheism. So in the end what would you have? A book that essentially says certain members of this one group treat members of this other group poorly. No shit, really? So what you're saying is certain people are dickheads? Who ever heard of such a thing? Alert the media at once!!!!

Divide people up into any type of group you like. Race, gender, religion, sexual preference, job, hair color, pant size. Divide them into any sort of group you can imagine and I will guarantee you that you will be able to find individuals in that particular group who treat individuals of the opposing or alternate group poorly simply because they are members of the opposing or alternate group. This is not uncharted territory by any stretch. So what exactly do you hope to accomplish here?

Quote:There was a young women in our Church who believed/was (she was) Bi-sexual, she dressed in that kinda gothic look they go for. 

Ok that right there? That's some god damn offensive shit right there. I'm pretty sure you didn't mean it to be offensive and you just didn't know better. But yeah, that's some offensive shit. That's fuck you, and the fucking horse you rode in on level offensive. So here's some unsolicited advice. Until you take the time and effort to truly know and understand people with sexual preferences that are unlike your own, don't fucking write about them. Don't even mention they exist. Because if you do, you only reveal how ignorant you really are and you offend others in the process. In the meantime here's fucking clue by four for you. Bisexuals don't have a fucking look they go for. They look exactly like you and me. Oh my! How scary! They're exactly like everyone else! Yikes!!! Yeah that. Now fuck off.

(January 3, 2017 at 10:02 pm)johan Wrote:

(December 31, 2016 at 5:01 am)Dragonspride1995 Wrote: Hello, By the title you should easily tell I don't belong here. 

All are welcome here, but if you say so....

Quote:[quote pid='1478405' dateline='1483174888']
I would like to make a request on the atheist community.  Within Christianity we have what we call testimonies and that is our story, of how we were converted, and what events in our life lead up to our conversion. I would like to ask for negative experiences you guys have had with Christians. I'm toying around with writing a book on how Atheists are treated by Christians. 

I don't think I've ever been treated poorly by any christian for being atheist. Of course as a rule, I keep my atheism to myself and I do not share it with my friends or coworkers. My religion is none of their business and theirs is none of mine.

I get the premiss you're trying to hit with your book idea and you could probably pull it off. But if you do it, I think your conclusions will be wrong. 
Here's the thing. Most people, are fundamentally good. Christian people, jewish people, muslim people, atheist people, even republicans and bass players. The vast majority of them, like 99.999% are fundamentally good people who don't wish bad on anyone are just trying to get from the cab to the curb without anyone dragging their bay or dropping a bomb on their street. But in every one of those groups you will always have a few who, well, kind of suck. 

So you could certainly find cases where certain individual christians treated atheists poorly and write a book about it. But what would that prove? I would strongly suspect that very few if any of those atheists would tell you that the way they were treated by individual christians is what led them to atheism. So in the end what would you have? A book that essentially says certain members of this one group treat members of this other group poorly. No shit, really? So what you're saying is certain people are dickheads? Who ever heard of such a thing? Alert the media at once!!!!

Divide people up into any type of group you like. Race, gender, religion, sexual preference, job, hair color, pant size. Divide them into any sort of group you can imagine and I will guarantee you that you will be able to find individuals in that particular group who treat individuals of the opposing or alternate group poorly simply because they are members of the opposing or alternate group. This is not uncharted territory by any stretch. So what exactly do you hope to accomplish here?

Quote:There was a young women in our Church who believed/was (she was) Bi-sexual, she dressed in that kinda gothic look they go for. 

Ok that right there? That's some god damn offensive shit right there. I'm pretty sure you didn't mean it to be offensive and you just didn't know better. But yeah, that's some offensive shit. That's fuck you, and the fucking horse you rode in on level offensive. So here's some unsolicited advice. Until you take the time and effort to truly know and understand people with sexual preferences that are unlike your own, don't fucking write about them. Don't even mention they exist. Because if you do, you only reveal how ignorant you really are and you offend others in the process. In the meantime here's fucking clue by four for you. Bisexuals don't have a fucking look they go for. They look exactly like you and me. Oh my! How scary! They're exactly like everyone else! Yikes!!! Yeah that. Now fuck off.
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Dude, thank you so much. I thought I was the only one on here that thought the OP needed to be more mindful when they were throwing words and descriptions around. And I mean 'dude' as an exclamation, not as a description of your identity which I cannot claim to know nor really care about since it's no one's business but your own.

(January 3, 2017 at 3:49 pm)Dragonspride1995 Wrote:

(January 3, 2017 at 8:22 am)chimp3 Wrote: Why would I or anyone else on this forum want to participate in your book? If I wanted to write a book about christian behavior towards atheists I am capable of doing so.

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@dragonspride1995: 

Your time on this forum is too short to judge whether your behavior towards atheists is exemplary. But , in my opinion Catholic Lady and neo-scholastic are two Christians to model after. Catholic Lady for her spiritual optimism and nonjudgemental personality. Neo-scholastic for his consideration of atheists ability to debate on a collegiate level.

If you don't want to participate that is perfectly fine, it was a request no one is forcing you too. This book is not going after your beliefs, it will have nothing to do with theism. The only point is to hold my side accountable to the standards we hold everyone else to using their own system, the testimony. In a attempt to Clean up the Church.

I am still curious as to why you think atheists would care if you clean up your church?

(January 4, 2017 at 6:36 am)chimp3 Wrote: I am still curious as to why you think atheists would care if you clean up your church?

I care. While I'd ultimately prefer no religion at all, I will still take the well-behaved Christians over the asshat Christians.

(January 4, 2017 at 6:48 am)Jesster Wrote:

(January 4, 2017 at 6:36 am)chimp3 Wrote: I am still curious as to why you think atheists would care if you clean up your church?

I care. While I'd ultimately prefer no religion at all, I will still take the well-behaved Christians over the asshat Christians.

I am still curious as to why he thinks so.

(January 4, 2017 at 6:52 am)chimp3 Wrote:

(January 4, 2017 at 6:48 am)Jesster Wrote: I care. While I'd ultimately prefer no religion at all, I will still take the well-behaved Christians over the asshat Christians.

I am still curious as to why he thinks so.

Ah, okay

(January 4, 2017 at 6:53 am)Jesster Wrote:

(January 4, 2017 at 6:52 am)chimp3 Wrote: I am still curious as to why he thinks so.

Ah, okay

I have never been directly offended by the Amish. Perhaps Dragonspride1995 could study the Amish.