(March 23, 2017 at 7:16 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(March 23, 2017 at 7:11 pm)Fred Hampton Wrote: Hey thanks mh.brewer!  Yeah, one of "those".  But I don't write about it on capitalista message boards, no way, Jose', too many vicious and incessant attacks from "nice" people.

Welcome. Hang around, make things interesting. BTW, pharmacology rocks!!!!!!!!!!! You were just not doing it right.

(March 23, 2017 at 7:41 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(March 23, 2017 at 7:16 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Welcome. Hang around, make things interesting. BTW, pharmacology rocks!!!!!!!!!!! You were just not doing it right.

Well, that was certainly bad marketing. For each treatable condition you give it a different name and then charge an amount reflecting the morbidity/mortality potential of the condition. Crabs not so much, cancer much more, erectile dysfunction thru the roof.

Hi Fred 

(March 23, 2017 at 7:41 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(March 23, 2017 at 7:16 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Welcome. Hang around, make things interesting. BTW, pharmacology rocks!!!!!!!!!!! You were just not doing it right.

LMFAO!  Perfect!  That's the thing, the latter years of my dad's life you had a bevy of docs loading him up on meds and another bevy trying to get him off of the meds because of the probs the meds were causing(iatrogenic dx)--and alot of people made ALOT of $ off of it til the bitter end.  Well, it's set up that way, cha ching!  And, thats the biggest reason I quit med school, didnt want to be a part of that--too bad I didnt learn about it until after I got into med school, would've saved me alot of time and energy and $.

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(March 23, 2017 at 7:54 pm)Full Circle Wrote: Hi Fred 

OMFingG, my cover is truly blown.  You're just a pleb here, eh, Circle?

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(March 23, 2017 at 7:51 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(March 23, 2017 at 7:41 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

Well, that was certainly bad marketing. For each treatable condition you give it a different name and then charge an amount reflecting the morbidity/mortality potential of the condition. Crabs not so much, cancer much more, erectile dysfunction thru the roof.

So, what are we into here, mh.brewer, pharmacist, doc, street opiate pusher?

Welcome Fred....
You sound intelligent....

I can learn a lot from you...
Stick around...

What's your opinion on objective morality? Hehe

For my part, I believe in prescribing meds only when required.

I hate taking meds myself and it would be hypocritical of me to over do meds for my patients.

There you are Fred.  May your stay here be everything you want it to be.

(March 23, 2017 at 8:07 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Welcome Fred....
You sound intelligent....

I can learn a lot from you...
Stick around...

What's your opinion on objective morality?   Hehe

Oh thanks, ignoramous, go PHD query on me right out the gate!  Trick question, right? Multiple choice?  Uh, well, there are objects out there, yes, I have noticed these objects, so many of them out there in fact, you could never notice all of them--all at once, anyway.  And these/those objects dont have nervous systems, so they dont have morality, they just kind of hang out.  Er, then you have these things called "sentient beings", due to the fact that they have nervous systems in varying degrees of development and at some point "up the ladder" those nervous systems are sophisticated enough to "feel" things, have emotional capacity, and make some sort of judgement as to pain and pleasure, hence including a judgement of "right" and "wrong".

At this stage, I would say any creature of such capacity has morality as described and that morality is subjective, but is normally collectivised according to the group:  that is, everybody feels and judges the same way about pain/pleasure, hence good/bad and that forms collective, subjective morality.  Is there any objective morality?  According to the line of reason I just laid out, I would have to say, no, there isnt.

Ok, can I take a coffee break now?  And am I getting paid for this?

Quick question for you:  how many birds in flight globally right.....NOW.....no.......NOW.....no......NOW!?

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(March 23, 2017 at 8:10 pm)anjele Wrote: There you are Fred.  May your stay here be everything you want it to be.

WHAT THE!?  Sheesh, I came here to NOT be attacked to death.  But haha, you're just an ordinary pleb here, join the masses!  Man, I wrote a TON of great stuff over yonder there.  Maybe someday they will realize what they lost.  Too bad for them.

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(March 23, 2017 at 8:09 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: For my part, I believe in prescribing meds only when required.

I hate taking meds myself and it would be hypocritical of me to over do meds for my patients.

Absolutely Doc.  I mean, if you are going to crack my chest open, I'm not taking an herb.  Meds do have their place when nothing else can or will work.  I'm not dissing all meds.  The specialization in medicine often leads to overprescribing of multiple meds, and you get the interactions etc.

(March 23, 2017 at 5:34 pm)Fred Hampton Wrote: Hi, thanks for creating this forum for atheists, of which I am, since about the age 1 hour(or less).  It's a WAR out there with billions of stupid religious people trying to take you down, your brain down and often your body too if they could pull that off.

Presbyterian family, supposedly, but never went to church growing up, except for a few "vacation Bible school" ventures over a few summers when I was a kid.  Sat in the back with another kid and cracked jokes about it.  That kid's in prison now, "finding Jesus", I presume.  The next door neighbor family was into the Bible and Jesus a bit--the Dad was more interested in $ of course-- and I liked their mom because she was friendly and good looking and cooked good food--so I went to their damn vacation Bible school for a few weeks a couple of summers.   It didn't "take".  Our family usually watched bowling on TV on Sunday mornings anyway, and I am thankful for that: bowling is REAL.

 Never thought about "Gawd" much as a kid until some wacked out woman pointed to the clouds on a sunny summer day and said "Jesus is going to come down some day and save us".  I thought, "save us from what?"  And, "who is us"?  Anyway, that didnt stick either and I thought it was the weirdest idea I had ever heard of in my life.  My sister also had a miscarriage that brought her to Jesus, so I had to listen to that a fair amount, though she wasn't offensive about it.  I think that was in my Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath phase.  Steely Dan has always been my phase.

Fast forward to teenage years and Dad was borderline alcoholic--great guy, though--and Mom was maybe going to divorce him, but found Evangelical Jesus instead.  So, we all 3 went to that church, the pastor was cool, lot's of super cute chicks there was a bonus for me:  couldn't make damn heads nor tails out of what they were selling, so I dropped out after a few years.

Like Sam Harris, I have an interest in meditation/"Nirvana", but don't believe that is a supernatural "Gawd"--just something of the brain, a really GOOD something, so they say.  I have not "attained Nirvana", so you don't have to worry about that.

I'm a pro level musician, drums are my main "ax".  And like (dead)Jesus, I have some carpentry skills.  Also, med-school drop out from way back--can't stand hospitals and most Doctors.  Oddly, dentists don't bother me much.

In addition to my native tongue, American English, I speak Spanish and Brasilian Portugues fairly well, BELEZA!

I would LOVE to survive my own death if I didn't end up worse off, but ain't jack I can do about it: the stuff's biological.  Which reminds me, I am a Socialists/Communist--ideologically--Marx/Che' Guevara/Mao type stuff.  Historical Materialism.  But I am not inclined to talk about it with capitalists. 

Welcome Fred!

(March 23, 2017 at 8:33 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:

(March 23, 2017 at 5:34 pm)Fred Hampton Wrote: Hi, thanks for creating this forum for atheists, of which I am, since about the age 1 hour(or less).  It's a WAR out there with billions of stupid religious people trying to take you down, your brain down and often your body too if they could pull that off.

Presbyterian family, supposedly, but never went to church growing up, except for a few "vacation Bible school" ventures over a few summers when I was a kid.  Sat in the back with another kid and cracked jokes about it.  That kid's in prison now, "finding Jesus", I presume.  The next door neighbor family was into the Bible and Jesus a bit--the Dad was more interested in $ of course-- and I liked their mom because she was friendly and good looking and cooked good food--so I went to their damn vacation Bible school for a few weeks a couple of summers.   It didn't "take".  Our family usually watched bowling on TV on Sunday mornings anyway, and I am thankful for that: bowling is REAL.

 Never thought about "Gawd" much as a kid until some wacked out woman pointed to the clouds on a sunny summer day and said "Jesus is going to come down some day and save us".  I thought, "save us from what?"  And, "who is us"?  Anyway, that didnt stick either and I thought it was the weirdest idea I had ever heard of in my life.  My sister also had a miscarriage that brought her to Jesus, so I had to listen to that a fair amount, though she wasn't offensive about it.  I think that was in my Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath phase.  Steely Dan has always been my phase.

Fast forward to teenage years and Dad was borderline alcoholic--great guy, though--and Mom was maybe going to divorce him, but found Evangelical Jesus instead.  So, we all 3 went to that church, the pastor was cool, lot's of super cute chicks there was a bonus for me:  couldn't make damn heads nor tails out of what they were selling, so I dropped out after a few years.

Like Sam Harris, I have an interest in meditation/"Nirvana", but don't believe that is a supernatural "Gawd"--just something of the brain, a really GOOD something, so they say.  I have not "attained Nirvana", so you don't have to worry about that.

I'm a pro level musician, drums are my main "ax".  And like (dead)Jesus, I have some carpentry skills.  Also, med-school drop out from way back--can't stand hospitals and most Doctors.  Oddly, dentists don't bother me much.

In addition to my native tongue, American English, I speak Spanish and Brasilian Portugues fairly well, BELEZA!

I would LOVE to survive my own death if I didn't end up worse off, but ain't jack I can do about it: the stuff's biological.  Which reminds me, I am a Socialists/Communist--ideologically--Marx/Che' Guevara/Mao type stuff.  Historical Materialism.  But I am not inclined to talk about it with capitalists. 

Welcome Fred!

Hi Rhondazvous!  I too am a wordsmith, a master, actually.