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And now, Stockholm...
#11
RE: And now, Stockholm...
(April 7, 2017 at 12:18 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(April 7, 2017 at 12:13 pm)Isis Wrote: Hardly a surprise, it's pretty much the norm now.

This kind of attack executed by a local because his girlfriend left him wouldn't make international news, except that the London attack involved a ME person.  Rolleyes

I didn't mention anything about Middle Eastern people. Rolleyes
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#12
RE: And now, Stockholm...
(April 7, 2017 at 12:13 pm)Isis Wrote:
(April 7, 2017 at 11:39 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Another one?? Ugh... Sad

Hardly a surprise, it's pretty much the norm now.

Unfortunately true. Same BS, different day.

(April 7, 2017 at 12:18 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(April 7, 2017 at 12:13 pm)Isis Wrote: Hardly a surprise, it's pretty much the norm now.

This kind of attack executed by a local because his girlfriend left him wouldn't make international news, except that the London attack involved a ME person.  Rolleyes

I think it makes the news when there is a good chance the motive for the attack is religious terrorism. Regardless of whether the person is brown or white. Because of what's going on in the world right now, terrorist attacks incite more fear in people than some dude who got dumped, for example.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#13
RE: And now, Stockholm...
(April 7, 2017 at 12:18 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(April 7, 2017 at 12:13 pm)Isis Wrote: Hardly a surprise, it's pretty much the norm now.

This kind of attack executed by a local because his girlfriend left him wouldn't make international news, except that the London attack involved a ME person.  Rolleyes

People look for patterns of behavior (rightly so) and ignore individual acts of stupidity. How else should we operate? If people often err in assigning something as a pattern it doesn't alter the fact that it's repeat behavior we are trying to gauge and prepare for.
If god was real he wouldn't need middle men to explain his wants or do his bidding.
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#14
RE: And now, Stockholm...
(April 7, 2017 at 10:57 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
Quote:The driver of a small truck steered his vehicle toward a crowd of people and then rammed it into a department store in the heart of Stockholm on Friday afternoon, killing at least two people, the police and local news outlets reported, in what was believed to be a terrorist attack.
One person was being questioned after the attack, The Associated Press reported, citing the Swedish prime minister, Stefan Lofven. The assault comes after several other episodes in Europe in the past year in which a vehicle was used as a weapon.
“Sweden’s been attacked,” Mr. Lofven said. “Everything points to an act of terror.”
Train service in and out of the city was halted, the police were urging people to stay at home and avoid the city center after blocking off the affected area, and the Swedish intelligence agency said “a large number” of people had been wounded.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/world...ttack.html

That seems like a bit of an over reaction.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#15
RE: And now, Stockholm...
(April 7, 2017 at 12:19 pm)Isis Wrote:
(April 7, 2017 at 12:18 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: This kind of attack executed by a local because his girlfriend left him wouldn't make international news, except that the London attack involved a ME person.  Rolleyes

I didn't mention anything about Middle Eastern people. Rolleyes

The London attack involved an ME person. You didn't say anything about that, I did. If the London attack hadn't involved an ME person we probably wouldn't have heard much about it over here.
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#16
RE: And now, Stockholm...
(April 7, 2017 at 11:08 am)dyresand Wrote: this is why no nation should accept refugees from the middle east it will only cause problems.
the fact is the rise of populism in the EU is a result of bad policies and actions of the EU leaders.
then you have Brexit i could argue that the refugee crisis was the straw that broke the camels back.
to make it clear the citizens of those countries don't care about the refugees yet the governments want to he humanitarian.
and the only way to stop this refugee crisis is to pull out the middle east.

Yes lets ditch our western concepts of innocent until proven guilty and assume every individual will do bad despite that the majority don't. Saying that there are large numbers of violent people migrating still does not constitute the larger numbers that don't get violent. Same fucking bullshit argument is made about Mexicans.

Now would you like me to post the stories of Christian violence in their history? Would you like me to post where the Christian British majority invaded India and their army murdered thousands of unarmed civilians? 

No sorry, I would rather risk my own death from violence than to assume the guilt of an individual who has yet to prove a threat to me. If you want to live in fear of others, move to Saudi Arabia or Iran, presuming the guilt of their minorities and outsiders is what they do.

Nope, I will not presume someone like Malala is a threat to me. I will not presume someone like our Muslim Congressmen Keith Ellison is a threat to me. 

Humans get violent yes, and they do base their violence on religion yes. But fighting that religious violence should never involve presumption of guilt of an individual. 

If you said "no nation should accept violent individuals or violent groups" I would agree, just leave the labels out of it. Please take your Frank Burns from MASH hyper nationalism and peddle it elsewhere.

In any nation worldwide, that population is far more likely to suffer violence from the locals that live there than from outsiders. Most criminals in China are GASP Chinese. Most criminals in Japan are GASP Japanese. Most criminals in America ARE FUCKING BORN HERE.

Humans get violent no shit, so what. Far more of our species DONT get violent when attempting to migrate TO FUCKING SURVIVE.
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#17
RE: And now, Stockholm...
I just don't understand modern humans.

Real threats and real attacks, kill thousands. It's not a car running through a crowd, but a regiment of tanks pulvarising civilians or some fighter jets dropping incendiary payload.

That is real death, the kind of grim winds that keep everybody in awe, shocked to the level of turning deaf.

What's new? crazy nuts exist in every city, take guns away and they will strangle, take ropes away and they will stab. 
Aim to fix heads, and stop supporting invasions. And you will cease valuable working hands from working in the cycle that ends up in the creation of more crazies.
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#18
RE: And now, Stockholm...
(April 7, 2017 at 12:55 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(April 7, 2017 at 12:19 pm)Isis Wrote: I didn't mention anything about Middle Eastern people. Rolleyes

The London attack involved an ME person. You didn't say anything about that, I did. If the London attack hadn't involved an ME person we probably wouldn't have heard much about it over here.

I bet we would if it was a white person with the same motivation (religious terrorism).
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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#19
RE: And now, Stockholm...
(April 7, 2017 at 1:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(April 7, 2017 at 12:55 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The London attack involved an ME person. You didn't say anything about that, I did. If the London attack hadn't involved an ME person we probably wouldn't have heard much about it over here.

I bet we would if it was a white person with the same motivation (religious terrorism).

Yeah, another outlier. Most such events are homegrown. So they sink like a lead balloon. Not what the Fox viewers what to hear.
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#20
RE: And now, Stockholm...
(April 7, 2017 at 12:18 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:
(April 7, 2017 at 12:13 pm)Isis Wrote: Hardly a surprise, it's pretty much the norm now.

This kind of attack executed by a local because his girlfriend left him wouldn't make international news, except that the London attack involved a ME person.  Rolleyes

The london attack was perpetrated by an Englishman.
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