(May 3, 2017 at 6:28 pm)dyresand Wrote:

(May 3, 2017 at 6:07 pm)Lek Wrote: Are you serious?

you're christian you don't have to love me at all just saying it only applies to other christians. 
i myself am not a christian so you biblically could kill me and if you are right you earn double the brownie points in god's favor.

Except that Jesus commanded us to love our neighbor as illustrated in the parable of the good Samaritan.
Show me how the bible says it would be okay for me to murder you.

(May 3, 2017 at 9:03 pm)Lek Wrote:  
Show me how the bible says it would be okay for me to murder you.

If you heard God's voice informing you to kill him.

Quote from the King on Blackadder:

"Love thy neighbour like thyself. Unless he's a Turk. In which case, kill the bastard!"

(May 3, 2017 at 9:03 pm)Lek Wrote:

(May 3, 2017 at 6:28 pm)dyresand Wrote: i myself am not a christian so you biblically could kill me and if you are right you earn double the brownie points in god's favor.

Show me how the bible says it would be okay for me to murder you.

dyresand is right because Jesus does say in John 15:6 "Whoever does not abide in me is thrown away like a branch and withers; such branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned." I mean the burning of witches, heretics, and atheists throughout the shameful history of Christianity was based on that one cruel verse spoken by the loving Jesus. And Jesus was obsessed with fire, just like his father.

Also you could kill dyresand if his parents decided he was bad boy it was OK by Jesus to implement Moses' law of stoning bad children by people in the city Mark7,10-13 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Also according to Jesus you could kill for all sorts of misdeminors like picking sticks on Saturday or wearing cloths of different color because those were all reasons from the OT and Jesus endorsed them Matthew 5:17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished."

But let me guess, you ignore that part. The New Testament is one colossal missed opportunity. This would have been the perfect place for the Word of God to mature into a real moral tale: the old model replaced by the new, anger and jealousy replaced by kindness and understanding. Jesus was like a politician who gets elected, promising sweeping reforms, but immediately takes up with the same old corruption. Why didn't he apologize for his father being a petty control freak? Wasn't he supposed to be better than that? Aren't we?
And if you think that Jesus was not bloodthirsty monster like his dad then you believe Jesus was somebody other than who he claimed to be. In any event, the Jesus of the New Testament thought and taught that he was the God of the Old Testament.

Can you imagine if John 15:6 went like this "It was horribly sexist and cruel for my father to threaten to rape nonbelieving women"

(May 3, 2017 at 9:30 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Quote from the King on Blackadder:

"Love thy neighbour like thyself.  Unless he's a Turk.  In which case, kill the bastard!"

Or Jew. Christians were killing Jews for all sorts of things like for thinking that Jews were stealing wafers and nailing them to wood in order to crucify Jesus again. Thousands and thousands of Jews died for that. But our Lek here never heard of that because to be a Christian today you have got to ignore a lot of people, ignore a lot of history and ignore lots of reason.

(May 3, 2017 at 9:03 pm)Lek Wrote:

(May 3, 2017 at 6:28 pm)dyresand Wrote: you're christian you don't have to love me at all just saying it only applies to other christians. 
i myself am not a christian so you biblically could kill me and if you are right you earn double the brownie points in god's favor.

Except that Jesus commanded us to love our neighbor as illustrated in the parable of the good Samaritan.  
Show me how the bible says it would be okay for me to murder you.

The word "neighbor" is pretty vague and elastic...

None of the people in my city are "true christians". I can feel myself getting tired already.

(May 3, 2017 at 9:03 pm)Lek Wrote:

(May 3, 2017 at 6:28 pm)dyresand Wrote: you're christian you don't have to love me at all just saying it only applies to other christians. 
i myself am not a christian so you biblically could kill me and if you are right you earn double the brownie points in god's favor.

Except that Jesus commanded us to love our neighbor as illustrated in the parable of the good Samaritan.  
Show me how the bible says it would be okay for me to murder you.

In regards to just how pissed off God was with the Amalekites, please recall God specifically used the word "forever".  There is no asterisk in scripture with a note at the bottom of the page saying something to the effect, well, God means forever until Jesus shows up.

So, without that asterisk, the Amalekites are, indeed, on the Holy Shitlist FOREVER.

(April 21, 2017 at 9:10 pm)dyresand Wrote: It only applies to christians and no one else. So yeah you can hate your neighbor if they aren't christian. 

- Bible.

Jesus specifically said love your enemies. Not that non Christians are enemies, but if you're supposed to love your enemies, clearly you're supposed to love people who are simply a different religion from you.

I don't understand love. Can I just tolerate?

See, this is one of the reasons I stopped debating. You will never encounter a Christian who won't cherry pick. I don't blame them. If you actually took the Bible for what it says and didn't fade things out, all the contradictions would drive you insane.

Love thy neighbor. All of them. Except rude sons. Except women that touch your balls to stop a fight. All of them, though. Love them all, because Jesus. Old Testament is so last year. No, wait. God is the same yesterday, today, and always... so Old Testament stays! Lol whatever.