The "Black Lives Matter" movement is only concerned with black lives.

That is a fact, though it is also a fact that black lives are more prone to violence from the police force than white lives.

What concerns me, however, is the segregation of the movement, especially when you can do a google search to find out that the BLM movement practically does not want white people to help them out at all.

Doctor Martin Luther King accepted the help from white people, yet this BLM movement seems to be reticent of it.

Racism exists in the BLM movement.

(July 1, 2017 at 3:59 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(June 30, 2017 at 7:17 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: At this point Kit is just being obtuse for either lulz or because he's too much of a coward to admit when he was wrong.

I believe I am not wrong.

So what? Drich believes in a god who killed his son to absolve the sin a human imbibed from listening to a talking snake.

No one cares what you believe. Build your case with rational thinking, if you can.

(July 1, 2017 at 5:05 pm)FFaith Wrote: People go with "All Lives Matter" because of the many black supremacists out there who think that white lives are worthless, or that we're pretty much all devils. Even Laci Green, who is a major SJW who shits on her own race, is now turned away as an ally of the black community just because she's willing to hear other people out that have a different opinion from her own.

I'm not saying blacks don't have reason to be angry, because they do and I sympathize with much of that anger, but racism coming from blacks is still racism and should be discouraged. If anyone thinks it's a good idea to tell blacks that it's not possible for them to be racist, I wonder what you think about the recent "No Whites Allowed Day" at Evergreen college. You tell blacks that it's not humanly possible for them to be racist, and this is the result you get. You tell them that nothing they can possibly say or do against whites, even torturing them, is racist, and this is what you end up with. People getting attacked. "Days of Absence" where white people are not allowed to attend. White school staff being held hostage while being given demands by young adults who act more like preschoolers. Anything goes.

Omigawd...*gasp*
Are you telling me that there are blacks who don't like white people!? AND, who are mean to them!??
No...I don't believe you...you're lying!

Or, perhaps in your view, "racism" is seen as any random or individual, negative event that happens to be racially motivated, and others view "racism" as being institutionalized. A stark difference in perspective, no doubt.

Could be that, I guess.

(July 1, 2017 at 5:35 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Build your case with rational thinking, if you can.

I already have.

(July 1, 2017 at 5:33 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: The "Black Lives Matter" movement is only concerned with black lives.

That is a fact, though it is also a fact that black lives are more prone to violence from the police force than white lives.

What concerns me, however, is the segregation of the movement, especially when you can do a google search to find out that the BLM movement practically does not want white people to help them out at all.

Doctor Martin Luther King accepted the help from white people, yet this BLM movement seems to be reticent of it.

Racism exists in the BLM movement.

Wait, you're telling me blacks can be racist too? Who'da thunk it?!

If I was targeted for my skin color I'd certainly be wary of folks who have historically discriminated against folks sharing my skin color. Crazy, huh?

(July 1, 2017 at 5:27 pm)FFaith Wrote: What I was saying is, that when you have so many blacks (who I think are more racist than whites on average)[...]

... this sort of thing is why double facepalm.

(July 1, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Lutrinae Wrote:

(July 1, 2017 at 5:35 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Build your case with rational thinking, if you can.

I already have.

No, you haven't. You've built it on a subjective misinterpretation when others have already pointed out the issues in your "argument". It may satisfy you, but it is hardly rational.

(July 1, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Thena323 Wrote: Omigawd...*gasp*
Are you telling me that there are blacks who don't like white people!? AND, who are mean to them!??
No...I don't believe you...you're lying!

Or, perhaps in your view, "racism" is seen as any random or individual, negative event that happens to be racially motivated, and others view "racism" as being institutionalized. A stark difference in perspective, no doubt.

Could be that, I guess.

Or it could be that the two points of view  (individual and structural) are actually both valid definitions of racism, although given how one is actually a specific type of the other and some have decided one or the other definition is the only valid definition to suit their own agenda, I prefer to call the second "institutional racism", as Stokely Carmichael put it.

(July 1, 2017 at 6:02 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(July 1, 2017 at 5:37 pm)Thena323 Wrote:

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Omigawd...*gasp*
Are you telling me that there are blacks who don't like white people!? AND, who are mean to them!??
No...I don't believe you...you're lying!

Or, perhaps in your view, "racism" is seen as any random or individual, negative event that happens to be racially motivated, and others view "racism" as being institutionalized. A stark difference in perspective, no doubt.

Could be that, I guess.

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Or it could be that the two points of view  (individual and structural) are actually both valid definitions of racism, although given how one is actually a specific type of the other and some have decided one or the other definition is the only valid definition to suit their own agenda, I prefer to call the second "institutional racism", as Stokely Carmichael put it.

I understand that they're both valid definitions of racism. I was speaking to perspective.

Thus, the use of the words "view" and "perspective".

(July 1, 2017 at 5:53 pm)Hammy Wrote:

(July 1, 2017 at 5:27 pm)FFaith Wrote: What I was saying is, that when you have so many blacks (who I think are more racist than whites on average)[...]

... this sort of thing is why double facepalm.

So whites are more racist or are blacks and whites equally racist? Please educate me. Blacks are disadvantaged compared to whites so it makes more sense for them to be more likely to be racist. Yes, there are still many racist whites, but times are changing. Obama was elected, twice. Muslims and blacks are also more homophobic than whites. Now, if you see that statement and want to take it as me putting down blacks and Muslims, then fine, you can choose to interpret it that way, but in reality I want to be their ally, and I really don't like seeing anti-black racism or bigotry and attacks against Muslims who have to deal with way too much shit (with shithead Trump making it worse). I want things to be better for blacks and Muslims, but I'm not going to ignore reality so I don't hurt anyone's feelings. If something seems to be true to me then I'm going to say it.