(July 20, 2017 at 11:44 am)Dropship Wrote: Mordant quote- He [Dropship] was suggesting that the divinity of Christ is a fringe idea of a few nutjobs. It is a central tenet of Christian orthodoxy, and included in all the major credal statements. So it's the fringe idea of a whole LOT of nutjobs. You would be treated as a heretic by the vast majority of the church, Catholic and Protestant, for denying the divinity of Christ.
I don't give a rat's ass what organised religion thinks!
Jesus said:-"You have one teacher, me" (Matt 23:10)
Anyway it depends what they mean by "divine".  He was half-human, half-God, so he was only "half-divine"..
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Yeah, I have no problem with someone rejecting the pompous faux authority of organized religion and replacing it with the pompous faux authority of their own notions. Both organized religion and disorganized religionists always pass of their assertions as What God Told Me. No difference in principle, though your approach gives you more flexibility in the details.

The fact remains that I was addressing the claims of Christianity, not your particular claims.

ignoramus quote- God is great! (at demoralising humans and turning them against each other!)....
mordant quote- Jehovah used to have rocks too, but his followers disarmed him a couple thousand years ago. Now he has to content himself with guilt, shame, and fear.
Sorry guys, i dunno what you're talking about, who exactly is demoralised with guilt, shame and fear?
Here's a vid of me under my wargaming name 'Poor Old Spike', note the supremely confident, arrogant body language, play it fullscreen for maximun dramatic effect-





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drfuzzy quote- You're making progress! It's so great that you place Jesus, Klaatu, and Data in the same category - all fictional characters.
Steady on mate, Jesus was almost as big as Elvis and had a huge fan base, that's a lot of eyeballs!
"Large crowds from Galilee, the Ten Cities, Jerusalem, Judea and the region across the Jordan followed him" (Matt 4:25)
And he also went on tour-
"Jesus went through all the towns and villages" (Matt 9:35)



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drfuzzy quote- The "personal relationship with Jesus" bullshit is equal to a kid who wears his Batman cape to bed .Have your imaginary friend show up in person or fuck off.
Think "mindmeld" mate, simply like JC enough to want to get him in your head and you're home free..
"On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you" (John 14:20)

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mordant quote- Yeah, I have no problem with someone rejecting the pompous faux authority of organized religion and replacing it with the pompous faux authority of their own notions.
"Pompous"? "Notions"? Moi??
Nah, I simply like JC and want to be his mate, don't you?..
"You're my friends if you follow me. I don't call you servants, but I call you friends"- (John 15:15)

 

Droppin' Loads, you slap every childhood victim of indoctrination in the face. Your ignorance and/or naivete doesn't make you right, it makes you an asshole.

Wait!

Am I Jesus?

I like nuts!

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I can't be the only one who finds the classic guilt trip tactic of "Jesus just wants to be your friend... why don't you want to be friends with him?" equal parts laughable and despicable. It's the kind of thing that works on children and the weak-willed. "You don't want to let this fiction we've presented as an ever present authority figure down, do you?" Fuck off. That kind of shit won't find traction here.

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(July 20, 2017 at 10:02 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: *decloak*

I can't be the only one who finds the classic guilt trip tactic of "Jesus just wants to be your friend... why don't you want to be friends with him?" equal parts laughable and despicable.  It's the kind of thing that works on children and the weak-willed.  "You don't want to let this fiction we've presented as an ever present authority figure down, do you?"  Fuck off.  That kind of shit won't find traction here.

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And it makes them look like child predators. Even if they're only after their minds and not their behinds. Or both, in the case of the clergy.

KevinM1 quote- *decloak*
I can't be the only one who finds the classic guilt trip tactic of "Jesus just wants to be your friend... why don't you want to be friends with him?" equal parts laughable and despicable. It's the kind of thing that works on children and the weak-willed. "You don't want to let this fiction we've presented as an ever present authority figure down, do you?" Fuck off. That kind of shit won't find traction here.
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Not sure I understand what you're getting at mate, are you one o' them philosophers who don't take things at face value and are always trying to find hidden agendas and stuff?
Jesus's offer to us all was simply- "I'm throwing a big party in the sky and you're all invited".
Sounds good to me, I'd be nuts to refuse.. 

(July 20, 2017 at 9:54 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Wait!

Am I Jesus?

I like nuts!

Even black walnuts ??

Speaking of nuts, as a kid I overheard my dad say to my mam about me - "He's nutty! No don't laugh, I really do mean it, he wastes all his pocket money on silly plastic model aeroplanes then hangs 'em on string from his bedroom ceiling in full view of the street, I dread to think what the neighbours are saying about him. when's he going to start saving his money instead?"
I got my own back though, I filled his radio with sand from a builders yard down the road and rofl'd when he tried to tune in the Clay-Liston fight but all he got were electrical crackles and splutters. Hehe
Then the sand began pouring out in torrents like an Indiana Jones temple and he freaked, "I don't believe it!" he yelled, "its full of bleddy sand, how the hell did that get in there?" Needless to say, I innocently denied all knowledge of it..
He's been dead now 35 years but I wonder what he'd say if he knew I still buy models, I got Amelia Earharts red Lockheed Vega last year and have currently got my eye on a cool B-25 Doolittle Raider down the model shop..

(July 17, 2017 at 10:34 am)Dropship Wrote: To me Jesus ROCKS, for example here he is in action against the snooty priests telling them they're full of shit, so can I ask whose side atheists are on, his or the priests?

"You're like whitewashed tombs which look clean on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean" (Matt 23:27)

Thats not jesus that's Robert Powell.