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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 12, 2017 at 11:53 am
(October 12, 2017 at 11:27 am)Minimalist Wrote: In 1588 the English were just positive that "god" had sent the storms which destroyed the Spanish Armada. By 1589 it seems that "god" had switched sides as the much lesser known English Armada was also savaged by storms as they attempted to invade Portugal. The English Armada was a colossal flop too. So either:
1. "God" has trouble making up his mind, or
2. There is no "god" and there are always storms in the Atlantic that no amount of fucking praying will stop!
For the sake of argument, let's say there is a god. The idea that this creator of the universe, with an unknown number of planets and potential lifeforms, gives a shit about what we do in the boonies of our little spiral galaxy is just the height of hubris.
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 12, 2017 at 12:09 pm
Religitards go through life thinking they are special.
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 12, 2017 at 12:32 pm
It's the one thing they consistently get right. 
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 12, 2017 at 1:22 pm
(October 12, 2017 at 11:53 am)KevinM1 Wrote: For the sake of argument, let's say there is a god. The idea that this creator of the universe, with an unknown number of planets and potential lifeforms, gives a shit about what we do in the boonies of our little spiral galaxy is just the height of hubris.
More likely such a god would be gazing raptly at the event horizon of a black hole as stuff gets sucked in, or watching a supernova and going "Ooh, shiny!" (I know -I- would.)
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 12, 2017 at 9:03 pm
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2017 at 9:22 pm by Godisgood.)
(October 12, 2017 at 10:52 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (October 12, 2017 at 1:06 am)Godisgood Wrote: (October 12, 2017 at 12:39 am)Astreja Wrote: Sin is an imaginary crime against an imaginary being. People do indeed do good, liar.
Saying that sin is an imaginary crime is your opinion. Saying that the Christian God is imaginary is also your opinion!!
But its an opinion based on current evidence. But its an opinion based on current evidence.
Im sorry Im not following you. What is an opinion that is based on current evidence?
(October 12, 2017 at 1:18 am)Astreja Wrote: (October 12, 2017 at 1:06 am)Godisgood Wrote: Gods standard of good is perfect. Are people perfect?? And also, Good according to what standard?
I don't give a flying fuck about your imaginary fiend's standards. Perfection is bollocks. Any act of good, no matter how imperfect and no matter how small, is still an act of good.
Quote:Saying that sin is an imaginary crime is your opinion. Saying that the Christian God is imaginary is also your opinion!!
Yes. And my opinions in that regard are quite robust. The more I hear about Christianity, the more idiotic it seems and the lower the probability of me ever taking it seriously.
How many Websites have you gone onto, Christian Websites that explain Christianity? I would think a lot right?
(October 12, 2017 at 11:53 am)KevinM1 Wrote: (October 12, 2017 at 11:27 am)Minimalist Wrote: In 1588 the English were just positive that "god" had sent the storms which destroyed the Spanish Armada. By 1589 it seems that "god" had switched sides as the much lesser known English Armada was also savaged by storms as they attempted to invade Portugal. The English Armada was a colossal flop too. So either:
1. "God" has trouble making up his mind, or
2. There is no "god" and there are always storms in the Atlantic that no amount of fucking praying will stop!
For the sake of argument, let's say there is a god. The idea that this creator of the universe, with an unknown number of planets and potential lifeforms, gives a shit about what we do in the boonies of our little spiral galaxy is just the height of hubris.
Well first of all, it is logical impossible for humans to claim that God, the Christian God isnt real and that there isnt any evidence. It just isnt logical.
Your opinion isnt robust. Its not strong.
(October 12, 2017 at 9:03 pm)Godisgood Wrote: But its an opinion based on current evidence.
Im sorry Im not following you. What is an opinion that is based on current evidence?
(October 12, 2017 at 1:18 am)Astreja Wrote: I don't give a flying fuck about your imaginary fiend's standards. Perfection is bollocks. Any act of good, no matter how imperfect and no matter how small, is still an act of good.
Yes. And my opinions in that regard are quite robust. The more I hear about Christianity, the more idiotic it seems and the lower the probability of me ever taking it seriously. I don't give a flying fuck about your imaginary fiend's standards. Perfection is bollocks. Any act of good, no matter how imperfect and no matter how small, is still an act of good.
Okay so do you think being good will get you into Heaven?
How many Websites have you gone onto, Christian Websites that explain Christianity? I would think a lot right?
(October 12, 2017 at 11:53 am)KevinM1 Wrote: For the sake of argument, let's say there is a god. The idea that this creator of the universe, with an unknown number of planets and potential lifeforms, gives a shit about what we do in the boonies of our little spiral galaxy is just the height of hubris.
Well first of all, it is logical impossible for humans to claim that God, the Christian God isnt real and that there isnt any evidence. It just isnt logical.
Your opinion isnt robust. Its not strong.
(October 12, 2017 at 8:53 am)Astreja Wrote: (October 12, 2017 at 8:51 am)KevinM1 Wrote: It would really help if Godisgood would learn how to properly quote people. All of these superfluous repeated lines from other people are annoying.
Agreed. Purports to speak on behalf of the most powerful being in the universe and can't even be arsed to learn how to operate a fairly simple bit of software. WTF?
I dont know how to not do it. Can you nicely tell me, please?
Agreed. Purports to speak on behalf of the most powerful being in the universe and can't even be arsed to learn how to operate a fairly simple bit of software. WTF?
What are you talking about?
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 12, 2017 at 10:29 pm
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2017 at 10:30 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The christian god isn't real. The problem isn't a lack of evidence, but a crushing mound of it. The creation account? Complete and utter garbage. The history of the patriarchs? Fiction. The sacrificial demi-god of the new testament? Myth. The exploits of Paul the Super Apostle? Blatant fraud.
Tell me, did I miss anything relevant?
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 12, 2017 at 11:15 pm
(October 12, 2017 at 9:03 pm)Godisgood Wrote: How many Websites have you gone onto, Christian Websites that explain Christianity? I would think a lot right?
Why would I visit the Internet equivalent of a plague village? I get subjected to plenty of that nonsense on the forums I do go to.
Quote:Well first of all, it is logical impossible for humans to claim that God, the Christian God isnt real and that there isnt any evidence. It just isnt logical.
By the same token it is logically impossible to claim that any other god isn't real. Why are you a monotheist and not a polytheist? Because you don't believe in those other gods. As I don't believe in your god, there's no incentive to think that it "might" be real. It isn't worth my time or effort to entertain such a thought.
Quote:Your opinion isnt robust. Its not strong.
Robust enough to withstand 53 years of knowing about the Bible without getting suckered into Christianity.
Quote:Okay so do you think being good will get you into Heaven?
No, because I don't believe such a place as Heaven exists. I'm not interested in living forever, either.
(And no, I will *not* be giving lessons in how to quote properly. It's easy enough to figure out -- for starters, try replying to only *one* person, and using the preview button before you post the reply.)
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 12, 2017 at 11:43 pm
(October 12, 2017 at 11:53 am)KevinM1 Wrote: (October 12, 2017 at 11:27 am)Minimalist Wrote: In 1588 the English were just positive that "god" had sent the storms which destroyed the Spanish Armada. By 1589 it seems that "god" had switched sides as the much lesser known English Armada was also savaged by storms as they attempted to invade Portugal. The English Armada was a colossal flop too. So either:
1. "God" has trouble making up his mind, or
2. There is no "god" and there are always storms in the Atlantic that no amount of fucking praying will stop!
For the sake of argument, let's say there is a god. The idea that this creator of the universe, with an unknown number of planets and potential lifeforms, gives a shit about what we do in the boonies of our little spiral galaxy is just the height of hubris.
But don't you find His fascination and pronouncements on menstruation compelling ??
Ezekiel 18:6 - [And] hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman,
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 12, 2017 at 11:50 pm
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2017 at 11:52 pm by KevinM1.)
Seems like Godisgood is one of those theists that doesn't understand atheists or atheism. A quick rundown:
No, we don't believe in god. Any god.
We're not people who secretly believe, but enjoy sinning too much to acknowledge him.
We don't believe sin is an actual thing. The idea of sin is idiotic.
We're not people who secretly believe, but are angry at god for some reason.
We think your deity (and all the rest) is fiction. We're not angry at god, just like we're not angry at Darth Vader, or Voldemort, or Sauron, or ....
We don't believe in heaven, hell, purgatory, or any other form of afterlife.
Basically, everything you think is correct regarding spiritual matters we deny. Because spirits/souls aren't real, either.
(October 12, 2017 at 11:43 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: (October 12, 2017 at 11:53 am)KevinM1 Wrote: For the sake of argument, let's say there is a god. The idea that this creator of the universe, with an unknown number of planets and potential lifeforms, gives a shit about what we do in the boonies of our little spiral galaxy is just the height of hubris.
But don't you find His fascination and pronouncements on menstruation compelling ??
Ezekiel 18:6 - [And] hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman,
About as compelling as his views on the disabled in Leviticus.
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 12, 2017 at 11:56 pm
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(October 12, 2017 at 11:15 pm)Astreja Wrote: (October 12, 2017 at 9:03 pm)Godisgood Wrote: How many Websites have you gone onto, Christian Websites that explain Christianity? I would think a lot right?
Why would I visit the Internet equivalent of a plague village? I get subjected to plenty of that nonsense on the forums I do go to.
Quote:Well first of all, it is logical impossible for humans to claim that God, the Christian God isnt real and that there isnt any evidence. It just isnt logical.
By the same token it is logically impossible to claim that any other god isn't real. Why are you a monotheist and not a polytheist? Because you don't believe in those other gods. As I don't believe in your god, there's no incentive to think that it "might" be real. It isn't worth my time or effort to entertain such a thought.
Quote:Your opinion isnt robust. Its not strong.
Robust enough to withstand 53 years of knowing about the Bible without getting suckered into Christianity.
Quote:Okay so do you think being good will get you into Heaven?
No, because I don't believe such a place as Heaven exists. I'm not interested in living forever, either.
(And no, I will *not* be giving lessons in how to quote properly. It's easy enough to figure out -- for starters, try replying to only *one* person, and using the preview button before you post the reply.)
How do you know that there isn't an incentive? Of course, there's evidence for my God!!! And when you say other gods, which gods are you talking about? Allah is one example.
(October 12, 2017 at 11:56 pm)Godisgood Wrote: (October 12, 2017 at 11:15 pm)Astreja Wrote: Why would I visit the Internet equivalent of a plague village? I get subjected to plenty of that nonsense on the forums I do go to.
By the same token it is logically impossible to claim that any other god isn't real. Why are you a monotheist and not a polytheist? Because you don't believe in those other gods. As I don't believe in your god, there's no incentive to think that it "might" be real. It isn't worth my time or effort to entertain such a thought.
Robust enough to withstand 53 years of knowing about the Bible without getting suckered into Christianity.
No, because I don't believe such a place as Heaven exists. I'm not interested in living forever, either.
(And no, I will *not* be giving lessons in how to quote properly. It's easy enough to figure out -- for starters, try replying to only *one* person, and using the preview button before you post the reply.)
How do you know that there isn't an incentive? Of course, there's evidence for my God!!! And when you say other gods, which gods are you talking about? Allah is one example.
Robust enough to withstand 53 years of knowing about the Bible without getting suckered into Christianity.
You could have studied it for 53 years and still be wrong!!
(October 12, 2017 at 11:56 pm)Godisgood Wrote: (October 12, 2017 at 11:15 pm)Astreja Wrote: Why would I visit the Internet equivalent of a plague village? I get subjected to plenty of that nonsense on the forums I do go to.
By the same token it is logically impossible to claim that any other god isn't real. Why are you a monotheist and not a polytheist? Because you don't believe in those other gods. As I don't believe in your god, there's no incentive to think that it "might" be real. It isn't worth my time or effort to entertain such a thought.
Robust enough to withstand 53 years of knowing about the Bible without getting suckered into Christianity.
No, because I don't believe such a place as Heaven exists. I'm not interested in living forever, either.
(And no, I will *not* be giving lessons in how to quote properly. It's easy enough to figure out -- for starters, try replying to only *one* person, and using the preview button before you post the reply.)
How do you know that there isn't an incentive? Of course, there's evidence for my God!!! And when you say other gods, which gods are you talking about? Allah is one example.
(October 12, 2017 at 11:56 pm)Godisgood Wrote: How do you know that there isn't an incentive? Of course, there's evidence for my God!!! And when you say other gods, which gods are you talking about? Allah is one example.
Robust enough to withstand 53 years of knowing about the Bible without getting suckered into Christianity.
You could have studied it for 53 years and still be wrong!! I didnt ask you whether you believed in Heaven or not? I asked you a different question. Can you please answer my question?
(And no, I will *not* be giving lessons in how to quote properly. It's easy enough to figure out -- for starters, try replying to only *one* person, and using the preview button before you post the reply.)
You're the one thats complaining about what I'm doing. I dont think its that big of a deal to teach a Newbie something or simply intruct me on how to do something?
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