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Psalm 137:9
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 14, 2017 at 1:37 am
1. Richard Dawkins is not atheism nor is any one man 

2. Naturalism is not atheism 

3. Lawrence is Atheism . 

4. Evolution is not Atheism nor is Abiogenisis .
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 14, 2017 at 1:40 am (This post was last modified: October 14, 2017 at 1:41 am by Godisgood.)
(October 14, 2017 at 1:31 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(October 14, 2017 at 1:31 am)Godisgood Wrote: Whether they are atheists or naturalists or evolutionists or all three, athiests believe life came from non-life or arose by chance. Im going to just choose one to talk about.

No..again, there's no requirement that atheists believe any of that.  But sure, pick one.
Amusingly, many theists -do- believe that life came from non-life..and for fundamental christian beliefs..this is a requirement.  There was no life..then god played in the dirt..and there was.

No thats not the same thing. Theres a difference. Just like theres a difference between the universe coming from nothing God createing the universe from nothing.
(October 14, 2017 at 1:40 am)Godisgood Wrote:
(October 14, 2017 at 1:31 am)Khemikal Wrote: No..again, there's no requirement that atheists believe any of that.  But sure, pick one.
Amusingly, many theists -do- believe that life came from non-life..and for fundamental christian beliefs..this is a requirement.  There was no life..then god played in the dirt..and there was.

No thats not the same thing. Theres a difference. Just like theres a difference between the universe coming from nothing God createing the universe from nothing.

God is the one who created Adam and Eve. He made Eve from Adams rib, correct?
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 14, 2017 at 1:42 am (This post was last modified: October 14, 2017 at 1:44 am by The Grand Nudger.)
It's exactly the same thing. Are you asking me, or yourself..if god made eve from adams rib? God didn;t make anything, but the question you need to ask yourself is what god is supposed to have made -adam- from..if you're trying to understand why abiogenesis and special creation are functionally identical propositions.

Unless the answer is "from life"......then it's abiogenesis.
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 14, 2017 at 1:44 am
(October 14, 2017 at 1:42 am)Khemikal Wrote: It's exactly the same thing.

No its not! Are you going to give me a chance to explain myself or not? I would really appreciate it if you did!??

Also,which is the same the universe example that I gave or life coming from nonlife?
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 14, 2017 at 1:44 am
(October 14, 2017 at 1:40 am)Godisgood Wrote: God is the one who created Adam and Eve. He made Eve from Adams rib, correct?

No.

Oh, wait . . . is this a literature class?
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 14, 2017 at 1:46 am (This post was last modified: October 14, 2017 at 1:47 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(October 14, 2017 at 1:44 am)Godisgood Wrote:
(October 14, 2017 at 1:42 am)Khemikal Wrote: It's exactly the same thing.

No its not! Are you going to give me a chance to explain myself or not? I would really appreciate it if you did!??
No amount of you explaining yourself will alter the fact.  Unless god made life from life....then god engaged in some process of abiogenesis.

I don;t even know why you;d argue...it;s one shining point that you and at least some atheists are likely to agree on.
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 14, 2017 at 1:48 am
(October 14, 2017 at 1:44 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:
(October 14, 2017 at 1:40 am)Godisgood Wrote: God is the one who created Adam and Eve. He made Eve from Adams rib, correct?

No.

Oh, wait . . . is this a literature class?
God is the one who created Adam and Eve. He made Eve from Adams rib, correct?

Im asking about what the Bible says. Im not asking about evidence. We will get to that later!!
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 14, 2017 at 1:48 am
Did or did not god make living things from clay .
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 14, 2017 at 1:48 am (This post was last modified: October 14, 2017 at 1:49 am by The Grand Nudger.)
I think this guy might have a script...or, at the very least...extremely limited expectations and preparation for this convo........
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RE: Psalm 137:9
October 14, 2017 at 1:50 am (This post was last modified: October 14, 2017 at 1:51 am by Godisgood.)
(October 14, 2017 at 1:46 am)Khemikal Wrote:
(October 14, 2017 at 1:44 am)Godisgood Wrote: No its not! Are you going to give me a chance to explain myself or not? I would really appreciate it if you did!??
No amount of you explaining yourself will alter the fact.  Unless god made life from life....then god engaged in some process of abiogenesis.  

I don;t even know why you;d argue...it;s one shining point that you and at least some atheists are likely to agree on.

No amount of you explaining yourself will alter the fact.  Unless god made life from life....then god engaged in some process of abiogenesis. 

No He didnt!
(October 14, 2017 at 1:50 am)Godisgood Wrote:
(October 14, 2017 at 1:46 am)Khemikal Wrote: No amount of you explaining yourself will alter the fact.  Unless god made life from life....then god engaged in some process of abiogenesis.  

I don;t even know why you;d argue...it;s one shining point that you and at least some atheists are likely to agree on.

No amount of you explaining yourself will alter the fact.  Unless god made life from life....then god engaged in some process of abiogenesis. 

No He didnt!

Yeah except we dont agree on that. And no amount of saying that your belief is true will make it true, either.
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