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The atheists catch 22 situation.
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The atheists catch 22 situation.
Most atheists say..........well if God is real why then He doesn't show to us?

Before to make my comment I show you how Jesus put this question.

19. Unaided by the Spirit-breath, the work of intellection tends to solve the problems of the things we see, and nothing more.
20. The senses were ordained to bring into the mind mere pictures of the things that pass away; they do not deal with real things; they do not comprehend eternal law.
21. But man has something in his soul, a something that will tear the veil apart that he may see the world of real things.
22. We call this something, spirit consciousness; it sleeps in every soul, and cannot be awakened till the Holy Breath becomes a welcome guest.
23. This Holy Breath knocks at the door of every soul, but cannot enter in until the will of man throws wide the door.
24. There is no power in intellect to turn the key; philosophy and science both have toiled to get a glimpse behind the veil; but they have failed.
25. The secret spring that throws ajar the door of soul is touched by nothing else than purity in life, by prayer and holy thought.


http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/agjc/agjc047.htm

It say.........cannot enter in until the will of man throws wide the door.........

You see?
Is all about opening.
How someone who is not interested in this opening can perceive God.
Isn't it a catch 22 situation?
On one hand atheists would like to get evidence but at the same time they keep the door shut so how can God    
enter?

I guess you guy never thought about it, did you?  Bird
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#2
RE: The atheists catch 22 situation.
Can you even count to 22?
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#3
RE: The atheists catch 22 situation.
And what about all those atheists who were former christians? They're just not humbling themselves enough? This is why your god gets accused of being lazy, among other criticisms. People who genuinely want to find god aren't finding him, despite his supposed knocking on the door of every soul. It's not a catch 22. It's moving the goalposts.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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#4
RE: The atheists catch 22 situation.
Careful, he's using multi-coloured fonts of different sizes.
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RE: The atheists catch 22 situation.
(October 14, 2017 at 8:56 am)Little Rik Wrote: Most atheists say..........well if God is real why then He doesn't show to us?

Before to make my comment I show you how Jesus put this question.

19. Unaided by the Spirit-breath, the work of intellection tends to solve the problems of the things we see, and nothing more.
20. The senses were ordained to bring into the mind mere pictures of the things that pass away; they do not deal with real things; they do not comprehend eternal law.
21. But man has something in his soul, a something that will tear the veil apart that he may see the world of real things.
22. We call this something, spirit consciousness; it sleeps in every soul, and cannot be awakened till the Holy Breath becomes a welcome guest.
23. This Holy Breath knocks at the door of every soul, but cannot enter in until the will of man throws wide the door.
24. There is no power in intellect to turn the key; philosophy and science both have toiled to get a glimpse behind the veil; but they have failed.
25. The secret spring that throws ajar the door of soul is touched by nothing else than purity in life, by prayer and holy thought.


http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/agjc/agjc047.htm

It say.........cannot enter in until the will of man throws wide the door.........

You see?
Is all about opening.
How someone who is not interested in this opening can perceive God.
Isn't it a catch 22 situation?
On one hand atheists would like to get evidence but at the same time they keep the door shut so how can God    
enter?

I guess you guy never thought about it, did you?  Bird


No, we have thought about it, and it is nonsense.

Have you thought about the "holy breath" of Allah? How about the "holy breath" of Yahweh? How about the "fiery breath" of the Hawaiian goddess Pele?

OH THATS RIGHT, out of 7 billion humans you magically picked the correct sky wizard.

Get in line, take a number.  Dodgy
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RE: The atheists catch 22 situation.
Joseph Heller writes well, LR, not so much so.
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RE: The atheists catch 22 situation.
(October 14, 2017 at 9:00 am)Chad32 Wrote: And what about all those atheists who were former christians? They're just not humbling themselves enough? This is why your god gets accused of being lazy, among other criticisms. People who genuinely want to find god aren't finding him, despite his supposed knocking on the door of every soul. It's not a catch 22. It's moving the goalposts.


You mention the word GENUINELY.
Very interesting Chad.

How would you know whether these people were GENUINE or not?  I'm all ears!
I know countless religious people who just say that they are religious but within they are interested mainly in materialism.

Materialism make it impossible to be pure within and of course make it impossible to open the door to God.
People have to choose.
They can't have both.  Lightbulb
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#8
RE: The atheists catch 22 situation.
I don't think "if god is real why doesn't he show us?" I think "how can people leave in this stupid god shit in this day and age?"



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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RE: The atheists catch 22 situation.
Appealing to Jesus as the final arbiter of anything is bad enough when it’s done using the canonical Gospels, but leave it to Rik to double down on stupid with the Aquarius Gospel.
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RE: The atheists catch 22 situation.
(October 14, 2017 at 9:18 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't think "if god is real why doesn't he show us?" I think "how can people leave in this stupid god shit in this day and age?"


You may well say that in this day and age things are very different from the past but you really should specify the word material progress because within there hasn't been any progress.
After a million or so year that man exist he still hasn't found peace of mind and peace of mind is the number 1 priority in a human being so once again you fail  Banghead in your attempt to say something that make any sense.  Smile
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