The atheists catch 22 situation.

[Brian37]

And what about all those atheists who were former christians? They're just not humbling themselves enough? This is why your god gets accused of being lazy, among other criticisms. People who genuinely want to find god aren't finding him, despite his supposed knocking on the door of every soul. It's not a catch 22. It's moving the goalposts.

You mention the word GENUINELY.
Very interesting Chad.

How would you know whether these people were GENUINE or not?  
I know countless religious people who just say that they are religious but within they are interested mainly in materialism.

Materialism make it impossible to be pure within and of course make it impossible to open the door to God.
People have to choose.
They can't have both.  

Knock it of with the "materialism" bullshit.

Atheists don't value "materialism" the way you want it to mean "greed" and "selfishness" and "lawlessness".

Atheist value FACTS, not superstitions, not old comic books. 

That does not mean we are selfish, that does not mean we are greedy, that does not mean we say we can do anything we want. It simply means we don't assign good or bad to COMIC BOOKS.

For the same reason you don't assign lightening to Thor.

[Chad32]

I base my knowledge on the material, yet you think I'm living in fantasy land. You're the one who thinks the universe came from nothing/magic. Some guy from outside space and time spoke everything into existence? That's the story you really want to stick with for where the universe came from?

Not at all Chad.

I never believe in external guys from outside.
I rather believe that this universe is within God's consciousness.
It is an internal thought projection.

As you can dream on about everything within your imagination God can also do that with the difference that God thought projection is able to create the 5 fundamental factors that made up the universe (space, air, light-energy, water and matter) while we being his metal projection are unable to create any real element.

All we can create are imagination within the real imagination which are worth next to nothing and the only way out this worthless imagination is to go back into the real cosmic mind so everything will be real.  

If you want to come up with your own ideas on how the universe works, the rest of us can too. It's just that some of us have more concrete evidence backing up our theories than others.

[Minimalist]

I guess you guy never thought about it, did you?

You'd probably be astonished to know how little you are thought of around here.  And the same goes for your fucking bullshit god.

[Aegon]

I don't think "if god is real why doesn't he show us?" I think "how can people leave in this stupid god shit in this day and age?"

You may well say that in this day and age things are very different from the past but you really should specify the word material progress because within there hasn't been any progress.
After a million or so year that man exist he still hasn't found peace of mind and peace of mind is the number 1 priority in a human being so once again you fail   in your attempt to say something that make any sense.  

I don't know man, I feel pretty good.

[The Valkyrie]

Souls have door?

What about windows?

[GUBU]

Let me guess, it's a banana.

A dancing banana.

Am I right?

[notimportant1234]

I base my knowledge on the material, yet you think I'm living in fantasy land. You're the one who thinks the universe came from nothing/magic. Some guy from outside space and time spoke everything into existence? That's the story you really want to stick with for where the universe came from?

Not at all Chad.

I never believe in external guys from outside.
I rather believe that this universe is within God's consciousness.
It is an internal thought projection.

As you can dream on about everything within your imagination God can also do that with the difference that God thought projection is able to create the 5 fundamental factors that made up the universe (space, air, light-energy, water and matter) while we being his metal projection are unable to create any real element.

All we can create are imagination within the real imagination which are worth next to nothing and the only way out this worthless imagination is to go back into the real cosmic mind so everything will be real.  

Don't get my wrong , I believe God exists too.
But , you just created and endless loop with this theory.
Leting that aside , if we are in God's conciousness, why would he bother with our evolution? 
He can also be a man because I too can create the 5 fundamental elements in my mind. That also means that he is in a world where he can't creat things , he just uses imagination , like an artist( here starts the loop).
And with the last statement " get in the real cosmic mind", that sounds selfish. The Christian God teaches you to work->create with the porpouse to help others arounds you(not a Christian).

[vorlon13]

Could you tighten up which Christian God you're referring to ?

The scary Jewish one Jesus worshipped?

The revised, repackaged, renewed and refurbished God Apostle Paul cooked up?

The confused and confusing one the Mormons have?

Thanx !!

[notimportant1234]

Could you tighten up which Christian God you're  referring to ?

The scary Jewish one Jesus worshipped?

The revised, repackaged, renewed and refurbished God Apostle Paul cooked up?

The confused and confusing one the Mormons have?

Thanx !!

The Orthodox one , it says that beeing lasy is a sin-> work-> create things that help others

[vorlon13]

The "Look busy, Jesus is coming" God.

Got it.