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Brian37 · December 8, 2017 at 8:56 am

Now while we'd have to wait for a diagnosis, I am not buying a mere "dry throat". I have seen this sudden slurring in old people before in my personal life, and it is a sign of a stroke.

**Whateverist** · December 8, 2017 at 9:05 am

Yep, we elected a moron and a dangerous one at that.

downbeatplumb · December 8, 2017 at 11:17 am

(December 8, 2017 at 8:56 am)Brian37 Wrote: Now while we'd have to wait for a diagnosis, I am not buying a mere "dry throat". I have seen this sudden slurring in old people before in my personal life, and it is a sign of a stroke.

That's dementia. But then the signs have been there for a while. Everything about how he speaks has changed in the last ten years.
He was always awful but he used to make some sort of sense, now its just incoherent unthought through crap spewed out without filter.

**Minimalist** · December 8, 2017 at 11:25 am

Not exactly news.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/...ain-health

Quote:Health Web site STAT analyzed decades of Trump’s on-air interviews and spoke with psychologists, psychiatrists, and experts in cognitive assessment and neurolinguistics who've observed the ex-reality TV show host, and concluded that, at the very least, “there had been a deterioration” in Trump’s brain.

Quote:The experts noted clear changes from Trump’s unscripted answers 30 years ago to those in 2017, in some cases stark enough to raise questions about his brain health. . . John Montgomery, a psychologist in New York City and adjunct professor at New York University, said “it’s hard to say definitively without rigorous testing” of Trump’s speaking patterns, “but I think it’s pretty safe to say that Trump has had significant cognitive decline over the years.”

downbeatplumb · December 8, 2017 at 11:25 am

(December 8, 2017 at 11:25 am)Minimalist Wrote: Not exactly news.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/...ain-health

Quote:Health Web site STAT analyzed decades of Trump’s on-air interviews and spoke with psychologists, psychiatrists, and experts in cognitive assessment and neurolinguistics who've observed the ex-reality TV show host, and concluded that, at the very least, “there had been a deterioration” in Trump’s brain.

That's kinda what I said.

**Minimalist** · (This post was last modified: December 8, 2017 at 11:33 am by Minimalist.)

That Vanity Fair article is from last May. Which means they started putting it together in April or perhaps March. The asswipe had only been in office for a couple of months and was already scaring the shit out of health care professionals.

And along those lines:

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/watch-t...lzheimers/

This is ONE SENTENCE, transcribed and printed out from a video.

Quote:lex Leo of the Daily Beast transcribed one sentence Trump delivered at a campaign stop in South Carolina, a series of dead ends, unfinished thoughts and ramblings:

Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you’re a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my, like, credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger, fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

WTF!!!

**Whateverist** · December 8, 2017 at 11:57 am

I pick up distinct traces of Rik speak, except with less emoticons.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: December 8, 2017 at 12:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

(December 8, 2017 at 11:28 am)Minimalist Wrote: WTF!!!

Authoritarian movements have commonly relied on internally confusing doctrines. The idea is to get people wincing and grinding their headmeat so hard and to no end that they just throw their hands in the air and say "Fuck it, whatever that guy says!"

In that sense, you could see the presidents speech as a success, even if it's accidental. That might make it worse, in that he's an accidental facist icon. I prefer capable and intentional facists. They make better punching bags, since you don't have to feel bad about making fun of a demented moron, in their case. Scrotus is a third rate benito with broke brain syndrome. Maybe he lost his own personal vietnam.

Brian37 · December 8, 2017 at 1:41 pm

(December 8, 2017 at 11:17 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(December 8, 2017 at 8:56 am)Brian37 Wrote: Now while we'd have to wait for a diagnosis, I am not buying a mere "dry throat". I have seen this sudden slurring in old people before in my personal life, and it is a sign of a stroke.

That's dementia. But then the signs have been there for a while. Everything about how he speaks has changed in the last ten years.
He was always awful but he used to make some sort of sense, now its just incoherent unthought through crap spewed out without filter.

ln all seriousness, outside the fact that this moron is president, symptoms overlap with different things. I have seen sudden slurs that end up being diagnosed as a stroke. But sure, wouldn't surprise me if slurring was also a sign of dementia too.

He does have some sort of health issue regardless. As narcissistic as he is, even given that, you'd think his circle would have given a shit enough to face him with it. But, nope, they all care about power.

LostLocke · December 8, 2017 at 2:05 pm

Not trying to defend Darth Orange here, but I thought it was just loose dentures. Or am I missing other things?

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