(August 22, 2011 at 10:50 am)frankiej Wrote: So I don't really think you can class these as points for religious people.

I didn't "class" them as "points". I included them in a (highly provisional) list of "methods".

(August 22, 2011 at 11:01 am)Godnose Wrote:

(August 22, 2011 at 10:50 am)frankiej Wrote: So I don't really think you can class these as points for religious people.

I didn't "class" them as "points". I included them in a list of "methods".

You know what I mean... Don't be retarded.

(August 22, 2011 at 11:03 am)frankiej Wrote: You know what I mean... Don't be retarded.

No I don't know what you mean. This was a quick list of some methods used by religion to perpetuate themselves. There was absolutely no implication that I was classing them as points for religious people. You were completely misrepresenting my post, and I have absolutely no idea why you would want to do that.

It was because your list had numbered points, that is what I meant... Not points as in some kind of strange religious scoring system.

(August 22, 2011 at 11:01 am)frankiej Wrote:

(August 22, 2011 at 10:54 am)Godnose Wrote: The slogan completely lacks power and seemed to me to undermine the credibility of the atheist position rather than support it.

only to those who do not understand it.

Nonsense! It was obviously a wishy-washy compromise formed by a lilly-livered chicken-sh1t committee.

If you genuinely believe God don't exist then you gotta say God don't exist.

Simples!

Here it is again for those who fancy a quick snigger

(August 22, 2011 at 11:23 am)Godnose Wrote:

(August 22, 2011 at 11:01 am)frankiej Wrote:

(August 22, 2011 at 10:54 am)Godnose Wrote: The slogan completely lacks power and seemed to me to undermine the credibility of the atheist position rather than support it.

only to those who do not understand it.

Nonsense! It was obviously a wishy-washy compromise formed by a lilly-livered chicken-sh1t committee.

If you genuinely believe God don't exist then you gotta say God don't exist.

Facepalm...

Do you not see that having a lack in belief in God does not lead you directly to the statement that God does not exist?

(August 22, 2011 at 11:25 am)frankiej Wrote: ...Do you not see that having a lack in belief in God does not lead you directly to the statement that God does not exist?

Sure. I can see perfectly well that being an agnostic does not necessarily lead to atheism.

However I am not an agnostic, I am an atheist, and I do believe that God is an entirely imaginary construction. I believe therefore that God does not exist (except in the imagination of people of course).

Edit: Why do I keep writing "God"? I mean "god" of course. Or "gods" even.


Look I'm sorry to do this editing thing (I've been told off for it in the past) however I gotta say this:

You might just as well say "There is almost certainly no Harry Potter", "There are almost certainly no hobbits", "There is almost certainly not a large pair of unwashed underpants been orbiting around Alpha Centauri for the last eight hundred and seventy-three billion years" ... the list is endless. All equally bolix.

And I don't see it as a "lack" of anything. My belief there is no god is a long long way from any lacking, including a lack of certainly. I am in fact as certain as it is possible to be certain of anything that there is no such thing as god (or Hogworts)

Actually, there might be such a thing as hogwarts, if it comes to that. If JK Rowling was to say "Oh no, this is a species of splatterjack I found out about in South America" I'd be more inclined to believe her than anybody who told me god exists. Even if I saw god in my living room I'd be inclined to dismiss it as an hallucination (of which I had quite a few in my yooft, btw - although not of god specifically).

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Well, you clearly have a problem with your ability to reason and see logic, so I think I will just leave you be. Good day to you.

(August 22, 2011 at 11:56 am)frankiej Wrote: Well, you clearly have a problem with your ability to reason and see logic, so I think I will just leave you be. Good day to you.

Oh yeah, my logic is all over the place, I know. I am a long way from academia etc. However, there is absolutely nothing wrong with my logic on this god question.

Here's a book I'd like to recommend to you: Book

Tata.

Oh wow! I haven't heard of that book before! -_-'