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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 26, 2018 at 5:59 pm
(May 26, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Ybe Wrote: (May 26, 2018 at 12:39 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: Oh, and atheism isn't a BELIEF. It is a lack of belief. That is that something you believe though, right? You do believe atheism to be a lack of belief in G?
If that's not what you believe, then that would turn in to:
I don't believe that atheism is a lack of belief in G?
We already knew that you don;t believe in words.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 26, 2018 at 6:13 pm
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(May 24, 2018 at 11:44 am)Ybe Wrote: 2B OR NOT 2B... Y B an A. Can U tell me Y B an A?
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G = (What many A's say they have no belief in). My G is the G found in the B"
- JOH 4:24 God [is] a Spirit.
- ACS 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being;
- 1TI 1:17 ...the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God
- JOH 1:3 All things were made by him..
- REV 4:8...Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
- PSA 115:3 ...he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
- PSA 44:6 ...beside me [there is] no God. (see Bible for details)
B= Bible (My G's book)
A = Atheism, belief in the absence of any belief in G; "One who does not believe in G" is an A.
Belief= an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists. "his belief in the value of the absence of a belief"
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I mean, is there any logical. reasonable. rational reason to be an A
(One that differs from, " I flipped a coin, so tails I am an atheist".)
Bad ex. reasons; I'm an A because there is no G or .
Deciding 2 B or not 2 B a xtian isn't anything I give much thought about. Rather, I'm just not that and when I consider the possibility of alternative realities going by the description of 'supernatural' my only response is "you've got to be kidding?"
If God could be something natural then I could give it more consideration. But since no one seems to have that in mind, I'll pass.
But I haven't read any other responses in this thread yet. How you doing, noob? Still having trouble imagining how anyone could choose to be different from yourself? Hope you're having a good time anyhow.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 26, 2018 at 8:08 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2018 at 9:59 pm by drfuzzy.)
Ybe wrote:
"So, if the logical support for being an A is No E
supported by the logical rational reason of No E
It would allow theists to claim logical support for believing G is
as long as they support it with the logical rational reason that G is .
But if that is all it take to support a reason by As, then A's have sufficient E to become a theist."
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"logical rational reason that G is". Ah, but that's precisely the problem. It's neither logical nor rational to believe in something when
there has been no evidence found for thousands of years that this thing actually exists.
Present clear scientific evidence that your imaginary friend actually exists, and yes, A's will accept the evidence presented.
The burden of proof is upon the person who is making the claims that this creature exists.
Chop chop troll. Get to it. Provide the evidence. (Obviously, do so without any personal anecdotes or quotes from literature.)
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 26, 2018 at 8:48 pm
(May 26, 2018 at 10:22 am)Ybe Wrote: Sorry if you believe that it is a lie. I thought that was your claim in #155
If it is not your claim: "I don't have a rational excuse for my belief, and you don't either!" then consider it retracted.
I don't see away to edit the post you considered a lie any more , but I would agree for moderators to tag #179 a retraction.
My phrasing was ambiguous, and I accept your retraction. This is how I intended it to be read:
"I (generic religious person) don't have a rational excuse for my belief, and you (generic atheist) don't either!"
It's a spin on a very common apologetic trope, "It takes more faith to be an atheist."
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 26, 2018 at 8:50 pm
(This post was last modified: May 26, 2018 at 8:54 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 26, 2018 at 2:50 pm)Ybe Wrote: Belief in No X-rays vs belief in X-rays What is the default postion?
Non-belief is always the default as people aren't born believing in X-rays or anything else.
Perhaps their own existence... but perceiving of something isn't the same as conceiving it. Babies have perceptions... but do they have conceptions? Not sure if it's accurate to say that a newborn believes anything.
(May 26, 2018 at 5:59 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (May 26, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Ybe Wrote: That is that something you believe though, right? You do believe atheism to be a lack of belief in G?
If that's not what you believe, then that would turn in to:
I don't believe that atheism is a lack of belief in G?
We already knew that you don;t believe in words.
As long as it isn't nonbeliefism.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 26, 2018 at 11:45 pm
(May 26, 2018 at 4:30 pm)LostLocke Wrote: (May 26, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Ybe Wrote: You do believe atheism to be a lack of belief in G? It's not what we believe, it's what is IS. Period.
Right now you sorta sound like a theist?
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 26, 2018 at 11:51 pm
(May 26, 2018 at 12:31 am)Ybe Wrote: (May 26, 2018 at 12:11 am)Astreja"I don\t have a rational excuse for my belief, and you don Wrote: Where did I ever claim to know such a thing? I believe it. Big difference. Fixed
I can’t figure out how to fix this. Please quote properly and stop writing things into the quote tag. It makes my brain hurt.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 26, 2018 at 11:57 pm
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(May 26, 2018 at 11:45 pm)Ybe Wrote: (May 26, 2018 at 4:30 pm)LostLocke Wrote: It's not what we believe, it's what is IS. Period.
Right now you sorta sound like a theist?
You-tooism is so tedious. It would be tedious even if it were true...which it rarely is.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 26, 2018 at 11:58 pm
(May 26, 2018 at 11:57 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You-tooism is so tedious. It would be tedious even if it were true...which it rarely is.
Unfortunately, no one wants to hear the truth anymore.
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RE: Ybe an atheist
May 26, 2018 at 11:59 pm
(This post was last modified: May 27, 2018 at 12:13 am by Ybe.)
(May 26, 2018 at 6:13 pm)Whateverist Wrote: (May 24, 2018 at 11:44 am)Ybe Wrote: 2B OR NOT 2B... Y B an A. Can U tell me Y B an A?
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G = (What many A's say they have no belief in). My G is the G found in the B"
- JOH 4:24 God [is] a Spirit.
- ACS 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being;
- 1TI 1:17 ...the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God
- JOH 1:3 All things were made by him..
- REV 4:8...Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
- PSA 115:3 ...he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased.
- PSA 44:6 ...beside me [there is] no God. (see Bible for details)
B= Bible (My G's book)
A = Atheism, belief in the absence of any belief in G; "One who does not believe in G" is an A.
Belief= an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists. "his belief in the value of the absence of a belief"
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I mean, is there any logical. reasonable. rational reason to be an A
(One that differs from, " I flipped a coin, so tails I am an atheist".)
Bad ex. reasons; I'm an A because there is no G or .
Deciding 2 B or not 2 B a xtian isn't anything I give much thought about. Rather, I'm just not that and when I consider the possibility of alternative realities going by the description of 'supernatural' my only response is "you've got to be kidding?"
If God could be something natural then I could give it more consideration. But since no one seems to have that in mind, I'll pass.
But I haven't read any other responses in this thread yet. How you doing, noob? Still having trouble imagining how anyone could choose to be different from yourself? Hope you're having a good time anyhow. Sure I'm enjoying to see how people are here.
Most responses seem to be along the lines of assertions; I'm an A because I'm an A or I'm an A because there is not Evidence for E.
But without any logical support for them.
It would be like if a Theist came and said I'm a Theist because I'm a Theist or I m a Theist because I have only seen the totaly persuasive evidence for the existence of G.
And if you asked for logical reasonable reason for why the Theist said well that's what a Theist is.
Kinda that is what I have been getting. My favorite post so far is this one because it was a forthright answer:
Abaddon_ire
A: My logical rational reason for being an A is there is no evidence for ANY of the thousands of claimed "gods". Not one.
And that is supported by the logical rational reason of there is no evidence for ANY of the thousands of claimed "gods". Not one.
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(May 26, 2018 at 11:51 pm)Losty Wrote: (May 26, 2018 at 12:31 am)Ybe Wrote: Fixed I can’t figure out how to fix this. Please quote properly and stop writing things into the quote tag. It makes my brain hurt. Sorry, I am not sure what you mean for me to do. Post a Quick post and ill respond or let me know what I am doing wrong.
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