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RE: What do you think of Wicca?
June 19, 2018 at 7:18 pm
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We have more accurate words to describe what you;re talking about..and it;s reserved for actual relationships with real beings, lol. I understand why you;d want to spin fear..it;s not a positive messaging campaign. Thing is, no matter how nice you try to make fear sound...you'll never be able to hide the "or else" from which that fear is truly and dryly derived.
Wicca..for it;s part, does away with all of that shit..and does put forward a legitimately positive messaging campaign that doesn;t have to tie it;s own scrote into knots.
(June 19, 2018 at 7:13 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: They have no proof that they have shown or will ever show people ought to prefer listening to them and reflecting over their words, That you think that;s their goal explains your mistake in this regard. Wiccan clergy aren;t in the business of being theological authorities. They;re ritual functionaries.
Quote:over the holy books and the likes of Abraham and Jacob.
Nor do they require a magic book. The sacred divinity of nature is the main focus, they gather to affirm life - not to defer to the scribblings of a warlord and his failed heirs. They long for the return of spring..not the return of the king.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: What do you think of Wicca?
June 19, 2018 at 7:20 pm
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Fear is the greater aspect and greatest of the forces of love, and it's what drives patience to remain patient, patience is rewarded true, but what drives it is to protect what we have.
And patience is the head of faith, it's brain, and without fear aspect and hope aspect, it would die, but the fear aspect is it noblest aspect and greatest measure of nobility is to the extent one protects what has been given to them by God.
(June 19, 2018 at 7:18 pm)Khemikal Wrote: We have more accurate words to describe what you;re talking about..and it;s reserved for actual relationships with real beings, lol. I understand why you;d want to spin fear..it;s not a positive messaging campaign. Thing is, no matter how nice you try to make fear sound...you'll never be able to hide the "or else" from which that fear is truly and dryly derived.
Wicca..for it;s part, does away with all of that shit..and does put forward a legitimately positive messaging campaign that doesn;t have to tie it;s own scrote into knots.
(June 19, 2018 at 7:13 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: They have no proof that they have shown or will ever show people ought to prefer listening to them and reflecting over their words, That you think that;s their goal explains your mistake in this regard. Wiccan clergy aren;t in the business of being theological authorities. They;re ritual functionaries.
Quote:over the holy books and the likes of Abraham and Jacob.
Nor do they require a magic book.
They attempt to make people listen to them and reflect over their words over that of God's and his chosen Masters who are the guides who provide the means to reflect and get ourselves out of the dark night of error where passion deceives, and their evil ways will be unveiled on the day when what was hidden in the hearts are revealed.
They speak about God without knowledge nor an illuminating book, and whoever seeks their mastery...
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RE: What do you think of Wicca?
June 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm
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(June 19, 2018 at 7:20 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: They attempt to make people listen to them and reflect over their words over that of God's and his chosen Masters who are the guides who provide the means to reflect and get ourselves out of the dark night of error where passion deceives, and their evil ways will be unveiled on the day when what was hidden in the hearts are revealed. Mystic..they really don;t, lol. It;s just not what wicca is about. Wicca is ideologically allergic to the imams you;re used to.
Again, you;re calling a bunch of hippy pacifists "evil"....and it;s absurd.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: What do you think of Wicca?
June 19, 2018 at 7:30 pm
(June 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (June 19, 2018 at 7:20 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: They attempt to make people listen to them and reflect over their words over that of God's and his chosen Masters who are the guides who provide the means to reflect and get ourselves out of the dark night of error where passion deceives, and their evil ways will be unveiled on the day when what was hidden in the hearts are revealed. Mystic..they really don;t, lol. It;s just not what wicca is about. Wicca is ideologically allergic to the imams you;re used to.
Again, you;re calling a bunch of hippy pacifists "evil"....and it;s absurd.
The point is they are trying to make it ok to follow people for all we know are not guided but misguided, and worse still, we don't know if they are truthful or deceivers.
The point is Abrahamic religion is that which God provides clear proof for the leader such as Abraham and Jacob, and people ought to embrace that which has clear proof of being the light in the unseen realm and unite people on it through a book from God.
Not make up what we want of a religion and then criticize wisdom without knowledge, but sheer ignorance out of confusion we didn't guard against but went head way into by following what we had no knowledge of.
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RE: What do you think of Wicca?
June 19, 2018 at 7:31 pm
(June 19, 2018 at 7:30 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The point is they are trying to make it ok to follow people for all we know are not guided but misguided, and worse still, we don't know if they are truthful or deceivers.
The point is Abrahamic religion is that which God provides clear proof for the leader such as Abraham and Jacob, and people ought to embrace that which has clear proof of being the light in the unseen realm and unite people on it through a book from God.
Not make up what we want of a religion and then criticize wisdom without knowledge, but sheer ignorance out of confusion we didn't guard against but went head way into by following what we had no knowledge of.
There is no "clear proof" except that which your warped mind has misinterpreted due to irrationality.
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RE: What do you think of Wicca?
June 19, 2018 at 7:35 pm
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(June 19, 2018 at 7:30 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The point is they are trying to make it ok to follow people for all we know are not guided but misguided, and worse still, we don't know if they are truthful or deceivers. Again, wicca isn;t about following people....theologically, it;s about the sacred divinity of nature. Either you feel that or you don;t..but a wiccan feels it and that;s all the proof they need. No ones talking people into wicca, or threatening the people who wont join..or those who leave. It;s not a proselytizing faith.
Quote:The point is Abrahamic religion is that which God provides clear proof for the leader such as Abraham and Jacob, and people ought to embrace that which has clear proof of being the light in the unseen realm and unite people on it through a book from God.
Wiccans..like so many others, have precisely zero interest in joining your club. You really need to learn to accept that.
Quote:Not make up what we want of a religion and then criticize wisdom without knowledge, but sheer ignorance out of confusion we didn't guard against but went head way into by following what we had no knowledge of.
Oh come now, islamists get to make up religions but wiccans don;t? That seems a little lobsided.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: What do you think of Wicca?
June 19, 2018 at 7:36 pm
(June 19, 2018 at 7:31 pm)Kit Wrote: (June 19, 2018 at 7:30 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The point is they are trying to make it ok to follow people for all we know are not guided but misguided, and worse still, we don't know if they are truthful or deceivers.
The point is Abrahamic religion is that which God provides clear proof for the leader such as Abraham and Jacob, and people ought to embrace that which has clear proof of being the light in the unseen realm and unite people on it through a book from God.
Not make up what we want of a religion and then criticize wisdom without knowledge, but sheer ignorance out of confusion we didn't guard against but went head way into by following what we had no knowledge of.
There is no "clear proof" except that which your warped mind has misinterpreted due to irrationality.
If this is true but surely it's not, then no one ought to take position of leadership. Plain and simple.
Leadership and guidance requires proof, not for everyone to claim and get away with without a clear proof from God.
And if a person dies and there is no book from God testifying to his truth, there is no way to attest to his leadership.
Who God provides clear proof for and who in essence are his clear proof both in understanding the book and having it's true light and being the power displayed in the miracles such as splitting the sea or moon, they are to be loved and held on to, no matter what the likes of those who were jealous of Abraham and his family have to say, every family of the reminder is to be honored and treasured as they are our greatest asset from God and the means to understand his books.
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RE: What do you think of Wicca?
June 19, 2018 at 7:40 pm
(June 19, 2018 at 7:36 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If this is true but surely it's not, then no one ought to take position of leadership. Plain and simple.
Leadership and guidance requires proof, not for everyone to claim and get away with without a clear proof from God.
And if a person dies and there is no book from God testifying to his truth, there is no way to attest to his leadership.
Who God provides clear proof for and who in essence are his clear proof both in understanding the book and having it's true light and being the power displayed in the miracles such as splitting the sea or moon, they are to be loved and held on to, no matter what the likes of those who were jealous of Abraham and his family have to say, every family of the reminder is to be honored and treasured as they are our greatest asset from God and the means to understand his books.
What's plain and simple to you has nothing to do with reality.
First, prove god exists. You can't. Now that is plain and simple.
Learn it.
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RE: What do you think of Wicca?
June 19, 2018 at 7:40 pm
(June 19, 2018 at 7:35 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (June 19, 2018 at 7:30 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: The point is they are trying to make it ok to follow people for all we know are not guided but misguided, and worse still, we don't know if they are truthful or deceivers. Again, wicca isn;t about following people....theologically, it;s about the sacred divinity of nature. Either you feel that or you don;t..but a wiccan feels it and that;s all the proof they need. No ones talking people into wicca, or threatening the people who wont join..or those who leave. It;s not a proselytizing faith.
Quote:The point is Abrahamic religion is that which God provides clear proof for the leader such as Abraham and Jacob, and people ought to embrace that which has clear proof of being the light in the unseen realm and unite people on it through a book from God.
Wiccans..like so many others, have precisely zero interest in joining your club. You really need to learn to accept that.
Quote:Not make up what we want of a religion and then criticize wisdom without knowledge, but sheer ignorance out of confusion we didn't guard against but went head way into by following what we had no knowledge of.
Oh come now, islamists get to make up religions but wiccans don;t? That seems a little lobsided.
It's about picking and who and what we want to follow out of desires and no clear proof.
Islam is about submitting to God and the guidance he provides with clear proof. And the Clear proof - Mohammad left 12 Successors as it is clear in Quran and Torah, no matter what sorcerers try to confuse people about that in regarding.
And if they truly were good, they would have shown clarification to understanding the Quran and holy books as they are, then deal with their arguments. Instead, the Quran which addresses their ways and their misguidance, is sought to be covered and they seek to confuse people about it.
And the Torah is not a book of stories, but rather, it shows a truth regarding God and his names, that cannot be changed, and his names, they are utmost beauty, not Wiccan leaders, but the likes of Sameul and Seth who are names of God appointed by him with clear proof.
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RE: What do you think of Wicca?
June 19, 2018 at 7:43 pm
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(June 19, 2018 at 7:36 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If this is true but surely it's not, then no one ought to take position of leadership. Plain and simple. Somebody has to set up the circle, somebody has to buy the candles and the incense, somebody has to be comfy performing the ritual in front of spectators. Like I said..ritual functionaries.
Quote:Leadership and guidance requires proof, not for everyone to claim and get away with without a clear proof from God.
Wiccan leadership only requires competence and a willingness to serve the group.
Quote:And if a person dies and there is no book from God testifying to his truth, there is no way to attest to his leadership.
Wiccan clergy attest to their leadership in life..not death..by action..not through a text from gawd.
(June 19, 2018 at 7:40 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It's about picking and who and what we want to follow out of desires and no clear proof. That may be what your religion is about..but it has nothing to do with wicca.
Quote:Islam is about submitting to God and the guidance he provides with clear proof. And the Clear proof - Mohammad left 12 Successors as it is clear in Quran and Torah, no matter what sorcerers try to confuse people about that in regarding.
That;s nice..wicca isn;t about that.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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