One thing certain is that: the particle/wave dualism is completely stupid! How in the fuck can light be both a wave and a particle?  Maxwell's equations? Einstein's relativity? Can you explain force? Show me a particle or, explain a field outside of particle theory? 

Isn't everything just a field with interaction, reaction and interplay?

There is one thing that is just as fucking stupid: Trinity doctrines!

On one end, I argue with quantum physics dualism, which is asinine! And on the other end, I argue with trinitarianism which is also asinine!


Can't God(cause) and nature(effect) be just one thing!

Well considering said duality has already been observed 

https://actu.epfl.ch/news/the-first-ever...h-a-parti/

https://phys.org/news/2015-03-particle.html


As for the Trinity the best defense i have heard is the idea that 3 beings can share one ontology (personally i don't buy it )

Haipule ...you're a funny man! You must be a poe...

Please stop shoving God into any gap you can find! Are you trying to convince yourself?
Because that's what it seems like...

(Once we understand how our universe interacts with other universes in a multiverse, everything will make sense. Until then, no magic has ever or could ever make sense) ... Forget string theory ...E8 (8th dimension) is the new black...!

Quote:There is one thing that is just as fucking stupid: Trinity doctrines

There is nothing as fucking stupid as the trinity.

I lichen dualism.

(June 24, 2018 at 9:46 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Well considering said duality has already been observed 

https://actu.epfl.ch/news/the-first-ever...h-a-parti/

https://phys.org/news/2015-03-particle.html


As for the Trinity the best defense i have heard is the idea that 3 beings can share one ontology (personally i don't buy it )

I do not question observation. What I do question are premises and conclusions especially if they are purely mathematical as there is no math in nature. What those articles claimed is impossible. Light is not a wave or, a particle. It is light! It is part of the field that is all of nature combined. One field of many things that interacts. 

I look at the field as I look at the ocean. There are a lot of things going on there, including waves, but it is still just one thing in a beautiful harmonious symphonic interplay. If I can truly be as stupid as the ocean, I would be a genius!

Or, is nature a crack whore!

No math in nature, PRICELESS!

(June 24, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Haipule Wrote:

(June 24, 2018 at 9:46 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Well considering said duality has already been observed 

https://actu.epfl.ch/news/the-first-ever...h-a-parti/

https://phys.org/news/2015-03-particle.html


As for the Trinity the best defense i have heard is the idea that 3 beings can share one ontology (personally i don't buy it )

I do not question observation. What I do question are premises and conclusions especially if they are purely mathematical as there is no math in nature. What those articles claimed is impossible. Light is not a wave or, a particle. It is light! It is part of the field that is all of nature combined. One field of many things that interacts. 

I look at the field as I look at the ocean. There are a lot of things going on there, including waves, but it is still just one thing in a beautiful harmonious symphonic interplay. If I can truly be as stupid as the ocean, I would be a genius!

Or, is nature a crack whore!

To your first statement could you clarify because i have clue what your trying to say .

(June 24, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

(June 24, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Haipule Wrote: I do not question observation. What I do question are premises and conclusions especially if they are purely mathematical as there is no math in nature. What those articles claimed is impossible. Light is not a wave or, a particle. It is light! It is part of the field that is all of nature combined. One field of many things that interacts. 

I look at the field as I look at the ocean. There are a lot of things going on there, including waves, but it is still just one thing in a beautiful harmonious symphonic interplay. If I can truly be as stupid as the ocean, I would be a genius!

Or, is nature a crack whore!

To your first statement could you clarify because i have clue what your trying to say .

I think it's "woo" does it better.

(June 24, 2018 at 10:36 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

(June 24, 2018 at 10:32 pm)Haipule Wrote: I do not question observation. What I do question are premises and conclusions especially if they are purely mathematical as there is no math in nature. What those articles claimed is impossible. Light is not a wave or, a particle. It is light! It is part of the field that is all of nature combined. One field of many things that interacts. 

I look at the field as I look at the ocean. There are a lot of things going on there, including waves, but it is still just one thing in a beautiful harmonious symphonic interplay. If I can truly be as stupid as the ocean, I would be a genius!

Or, is nature a crack whore!

To your first statement could you clarify because i have clue what your trying to say .

An observation is just that, an observation. It is not qualified or, quantified. However, when we attempt to qualify and quantify it through erroneous premise, then any conclusion is off the mark.

You would then be teaching nature what it means--foolishly! Instead of being taught by it. The Apostle Paul said that we would understand God through the things He has made! How many Xtians are teaching Paul what he ment--foolishly, through trinity doctrines that didn't even exist in his day. 

At this late date, we do not understand God nor the things He made for us. I, personally, am attempting to understand God in everything He made so that I can understand His power in the all things.

One thing I do understand is that everything He made is the reflection of His glory. And it only exists to be dealt with in the perfection of His standard as He made it. IOW's, I can do nothing good; not cooking; not my job; not music or science, if I completely ignore that fact that all these things exist to be perfect and beautiful which IS God's righteousness in action. Any such attempt to seek His righteousness is to OWN it! To THRIVE! To be always be at my best and improving!

To always love and be loved! To be useful beyond expectation. To shine like a star in the night sky. TO BLING!