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Massacre of the Innocents
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#141
RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 24, 2018 at 12:40 am
(July 24, 2018 at 12:33 am)Kit Wrote:
(July 24, 2018 at 12:29 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Ok, explain why they met Jesus at a house instead of a stable then?

First, clarify your question.

You said:

Quote:theists have always made it seem as though the wise men with their gifts were nearby in order to follow the star to where Jesus had just been born.

Jesus was clearly born in a stable, because there was no room at the inn, yet when the wise men showed up he was in a house.

How do you explain that?
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#142
RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 24, 2018 at 12:44 am
(July 24, 2018 at 12:40 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(July 24, 2018 at 12:33 am)Kit Wrote: First, clarify your question.

You said:

Quote:theists have always made it seem as though the wise men with their gifts were nearby in order to follow the star to where Jesus had just been born.

Jesus was clearly born in a stable, because there was no room at the inn, yet when the wise men showed  up he was in a house.

How do you explain that?

Speaking in literary terms, where one lays one's head becomes a home; thus, a house.  A stable can become a home, no?
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RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 24, 2018 at 12:59 am
That's what you'd call mental gymnastics...
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#144
RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 24, 2018 at 1:00 am
(July 24, 2018 at 12:59 am)Huggy74 Wrote: That's what you'd call mental gymnastics...

Hardly, but nice try.
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RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 24, 2018 at 1:39 am
(July 24, 2018 at 1:00 am)Kit Wrote:
(July 24, 2018 at 12:59 am)Huggy74 Wrote: That's what you'd call mental gymnastics...

Hardly, but nice try.

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#146
RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 24, 2018 at 2:06 am
Quote:Homer wrote that it took Ulysses 10 years to travel essentially 600 miles (by boat I may add).


Homer also wrote that Apollo came down off Mt Olympus firing arrows at the Greeks.  Do you believe that too?  How gullible are you?
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#147
RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 24, 2018 at 2:08 am
(July 24, 2018 at 2:06 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Homer wrote that it took Ulysses 10 years to travel essentially 600 miles (by boat I may add).


Homer also wrote that Apollo came down off Mt Olympus firing arrows at the Greeks.  Do you believe that too?  How gullible are you?

He doesn't believe it, actually.  He thinks other fictional stuff is not comparable to his fictional stuff, which he considers non-fiction.

Silly theists.
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RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 24, 2018 at 5:14 am
(July 23, 2018 at 11:15 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(July 23, 2018 at 5:14 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: What you are engaged in is called 'speculation' and can readily be dismissed as such.  Perhaps Herod simply wanted a fudge factor.  As it turns out, the magi weren't playing straight with Herod, so perhaps a bit of caution was warranted.  Regardless, what the magi actually told him and why he felt it was necessary to give the order he did is simply unrecorded.  Your speculation in the matter is worth dick.

Wow, 2 years is really farfetched...
No, it's nucking futs.

(July 23, 2018 at 11:15 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Let see the journey from Egypt took Moses 40 years to go something like 250 miles.
If the claimed 6 million jews joined hand in hand, they would have spanned the distance travelled. "Moses" and "god" taking 40 years of wandering to travel that distance indicates that both "Moses" and "god" are abject morons. But then, both are imaginary anyway.

(July 23, 2018 at 11:15 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Homer wrote that it took Ulysses 10 years to travel essentially 600 miles (by boat I may add).
So what?

(July 23, 2018 at 11:15 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: But two years to travel from Iraq/Iran to Jerusalem is a somehow a bridge too far.
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It's stupid. Ever hear of the Silk Road? Total time to cover that is two years. Your imaginary magi could have travelled from Japan in two years.
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RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 24, 2018 at 6:51 am (This post was last modified: July 24, 2018 at 6:52 am by Fake Messiah.)
What about slaughter of the innocent children that tyrant Kamsa ordered after Krishna was born so he can be sure he killed little baby lord Krishna? Why don't Christians weep for them as well?

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Massacre of the Innocents
July 24, 2018 at 9:50 am
Quote:Homer wrote that it took Ulysses 10 years to travel essentially 600 miles (by boat I may add).
Homer wrote a lot of nonsense 


Quote:Let see the journey from Egypt took Moses 40 years to go something like 250 miles.
Then Moses had no sense of direction because their is no way it took 40 years 


Quote:But two years to travel from Iraq/Iran to Jerusalem is a somehow a bridge too far.
Considering the Silk Road yes
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