(September 2, 2018 at 6:48 am)negatio Wrote:

(September 2, 2018 at 3:40 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Hmm...

My pro-tips for operating on this forum, OP. First is to accurately use the quotation function. I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this when the BB code is actually very simple and user friendly.

Not doing this is both frustrating for other members who are trying to communicate with you (responding without quoting will not alert them, and if you start cutting and moving text and not adding in additional quotation tags it stymies the flow of your post at best and makes it unreadable at worst) and, to be frank, draws suspicion.

In addition, I’m not here to tell people how to write their posts, but from my long experience moderating and posting on a wide number of forums, people who refer to themselves in the 3rd person, and write in an overly verbose and tangential fashion, are often not genuine in their attempts at discourse. Again, I’m not here to tell you how to write, but the reaction you will (continue) to get from posters is one of frustration and annoyance as people will find it very difficult to decipher what it is you’re trying to say (and that’s not due to a lack of comepetencies on their part, many of our members are very well read in a wide variety of disciplines as you’ll see from perusing previous threads). People want to talk to other members, but if it feels like they’re having a conversation with a poorly programmed chat bot, they’ll soon lose interest.

Those are my pro tips - take them or leave them.

(September 2, 2018 at 6:33 am)Losty Wrote: OP can mean original post or original poster. So they’re either referring to your first post or to you specifically.

Yes, thank you.  Why is a box with KevinM1's "I am not a troll." constantly appearing in some sort of sub-ground on my thread, from August 21st ??? Negatio.

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Quote:I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this

You lost me at "this", what this ?  Negatio.

(September 2, 2018 at 3:08 pm)emjay Wrote:

(September 2, 2018 at 3:01 pm)negatio Wrote: Emjay, again, thank you, precisely, when people, especially a person in authority around here, employs "this" when attempting to explain something to me, and, thereby, totally losers me, I am simply left hanging, stuck; and, then, an authority person does not even bother to respond to one's imploring requests to explain why, perhaps, one should always use the quote button, when, in fact, the reply button is so smooth and easy...now, I am being blamed for something the artificial intelligence mediating this site is doing, by mistake...this is spiraling into such extreme difficulty in dealing with the artificially intelligent robot, and, so much energy is being invested in wrangling about  the retarded robot, no one has even noticed,  that in my last respone to Robvalue, I finally expressed what I am saying in a relatively simple, and, very straightforward manner, which deserves kudo ! ? Negatio.

No... no... DON'T USE THE "QUOTE" BUTTON; if you don't ever touch that button, you'll be fine. Just do what I said one more time... that is click on 'deselect' at the bottom of the screen like I said before... then after that never ever press the "Quote" button because that button is used for multiquoting and you're not ready for that, and it's that that is, indirectly, causing all these problems.

Oh, wow, emjay, what a perfectly expressed and humanitarian instruction, wow, now I see !  The members railed at my for ten straight days speaking to "quoting", "...you're not quoting correctly !...", so, I employed the quote function, and, then, that became a disaster !  I am not really going to let all of the AI stuff get me down, I will learn in time, and so many beautiful members are coming to my rescue...this is both nice, and a damn nightmare ! Negatio.

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(August 31, 2018 at 7:32 am)mh.brewer Wrote:

(August 30, 2018 at 9:47 pm)negatio Wrote:

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brewer  Very interesting, you are ''something'', never.  In existentialism it is maintained consciousness, a nothingness, which is what you and I are, is a not, which, in fact can never, ever, Be, anything. Consciousness is perpetually not what it is and what it is not, i.e., a constant thrust into an absent future as a perpetual engagement in nothingness, doubly nihilating as non-being past a past, and unto a not-yet, perpetually remaking itself anew, daily; thus, one can not be, is not, "Chief Justice of the Court of Appeals"; or, a Philosopher; or a thief; a murderer...for by the time you characterize a certain person as being such and such, he is already elsewhere, for, he is a perpetual elsewhere...i.e., freedom.  Brewer, Brewer, Brewer.  The enigmatic Brewer...Negato.

I don't care about existentialism. And you don't follow to well. I suggest that you expand your horizons.

Brewer, the ass who originally accused me of being on some weird-ass drugs; you are so radically stuck on stupid, mean and horrid, that I cannot possibly stand any more of your hateful bullshit.  I am now asking you, like I had to do with KevinM1, to totally forget that I exist, and leave me the fuck alone.  I have bent over backwards to politely reply to all of your questions, and, you are just too too over-the-top, as an inveterate, wretched, ass. Negatio.

(September 2, 2018 at 6:48 am)negatio Wrote:

(September 2, 2018 at 3:40 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Hmm...

My pro-tips for operating on this forum, OP. First is to accurately use the quotation function. I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this when the BB code is actually very simple and user friendly.

Not doing this is both frustrating for other members who are trying to communicate with you (responding without quoting will not alert them, and if you start cutting and moving text and not adding in additional quotation tags it stymies the flow of your post at best and makes it unreadable at worst) and, to be frank, draws suspicion.

In addition, I’m not here to tell people how to write their posts, but from my long experience moderating and posting on a wide number of forums, people who refer to themselves in the 3rd person, and write in an overly verbose and tangential fashion, are often not genuine in their attempts at discourse. Again, I’m not here to tell you how to write, but the reaction you will (continue) to get from posters is one of frustration and annoyance as people will find it very difficult to decipher what it is you’re trying to say (and that’s not due to a lack of comepetencies on their part, many of our members are very well read in a wide variety of disciplines as you’ll see from perusing previous threads). People want to talk to other members, but if it feels like they’re having a conversation with a poorly programmed chat bot, they’ll soon lose interest.

Those are my pro tips - take them or leave them.

(September 2, 2018 at 6:33 am)Losty Wrote: OP can mean original post or original poster. So they’re either referring to your first post or to you specifically.

Yes, thank you.  Why is a box with KevinM1's "I am not a troll." constantly appearing in some sort of sub-ground on my thread, from August 21st ??? Negatio.

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Quote:I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this

You lost me at "this", what this ?  Negatio.

(September 2, 2018 at 3:22 pm)negatio Wrote:

(September 2, 2018 at 3:08 pm)emjay Wrote: No... no... DON'T USE THE "QUOTE" BUTTON; if you don't ever touch that button, you'll be fine. Just do what I said one more time... that is click on 'deselect' at the bottom of the screen like I said before... then after that never ever press the "Quote" button because that button is used for multiquoting and you're not ready for that, and it's that that is, indirectly, causing all these problems.

Oh, wow, emjay, what a perfectly expressed and humanitarian instruction, wow, now I see !  The members railed at my for ten straight days speaking to "quoting", "...you're not quoting correctly !...", so, I employed the quote function, and, then, that became a disaster !  I am not really going to let all of the AI stuff get me down, I will learn in time, and so many beautiful members are coming to my rescue...this is both nice, and a damn nightmare ! Negatio.

Cool Have you clicked 'deselect'? Since that old post is still quoted above, it looks like you haven't. You really do need to do that now, and any time in the future when you press "Reply" and see an old post that you're not replying to being quoted, also do it then, because that will indicate that you've accidentally pressed the "Quote" button.

There's also something else you need to know about, along similar lines. Like I said, if it says 'author Wrote:' at the top of any quote that it means it will alert the user in question. There's a function of the site that basically concatenates (joins together) posts if they happen too close together in time... I think it's within two hours or something. It's to stop people spamming a thread with many posts in a row; what it does in that situation is adds them to the end of the previous post, with a long horizontal line separating them. So if this has happened then though you may have posted say ten individual replies, they'll all show in one single post, with each one separated by a horizontal line. So given that concatenation effect, if you then reply to such a post, you are in fact replying to several posts in one... which means that even it you are no longer suffering from the multiquote problem, you may still be quoting people needlessly, and thus alerting them. The only way around that is to actually edit the post to remove the quotes you don't want, as I've done here in my reply to you. But we can work on that... let's first get the multiquote problem sorted

OP thinks he is smarter than the rest of us.

Almost two weeks later, still can’t figure out the quote function. 🤔

(September 2, 2018 at 6:48 am)negatio Wrote:

(September 2, 2018 at 3:40 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Hmm...

My pro-tips for operating on this forum, OP. First is to accurately use the quotation function. I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this when the BB code is actually very simple and user friendly.

Not doing this is both frustrating for other members who are trying to communicate with you (responding without quoting will not alert them, and if you start cutting and moving text and not adding in additional quotation tags it stymies the flow of your post at best and makes it unreadable at worst) and, to be frank, draws suspicion.

In addition, I’m not here to tell people how to write their posts, but from my long experience moderating and posting on a wide number of forums, people who refer to themselves in the 3rd person, and write in an overly verbose and tangential fashion, are often not genuine in their attempts at discourse. Again, I’m not here to tell you how to write, but the reaction you will (continue) to get from posters is one of frustration and annoyance as people will find it very difficult to decipher what it is you’re trying to say (and that’s not due to a lack of comepetencies on their part, many of our members are very well read in a wide variety of disciplines as you’ll see from perusing previous threads). People want to talk to other members, but if it feels like they’re having a conversation with a poorly programmed chat bot, they’ll soon lose interest.

Those are my pro tips - take them or leave them.

(September 2, 2018 at 6:33 am)Losty Wrote: OP can mean original post or original poster. So they’re either referring to your first post or to you specifically.

Yes, thank you.  Why is a box with KevinM1's "I am not a troll." constantly appearing in some sort of sub-ground on my thread, from August 21st ??? Negatio.

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Quote:I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this

You lost me at "this", what this ?  Negatio.

(September 2, 2018 at 3:45 pm)emjay Wrote:

(September 2, 2018 at 3:22 pm)negatio Wrote: Oh, wow, emjay, what a perfectly expressed and humanitarian instruction, wow, now I see !  The members railed at my for ten straight days speaking to "quoting", "...you're not quoting correctly !...", so, I employed the quote function, and, then, that became a disaster !  I am not really going to let all of the AI stuff get me down, I will learn in time, and so many beautiful members are coming to my rescue...this is both nice, and a damn nightmare ! Negatio.

Cool Have you clicked 'deselect'? Since that old post is still quoted above, it looks like you haven't. You really do need to do that now, and any time in the future when you press "Reply" and see an old post that you're not replying to being quoted, also do it then, because that will indicate that you've accidentally pressed the "Quote" button.

There's also something else you need to know about, along similar lines. Like I said, if it says 'author Wrote:' at the top of any quote that it means it will alert the user in question. There's a function of the site that basically concatenates (joins together) posts if they happen too close together in time... I think it's within two hours or something. It's to stop people spamming a thread with many posts in a row; what it does in that situation is adds them to the end of the previous post, with a long horizontal line separating them. So if this has happened then though you may have posted say ten individual replies, they'll all show in one single post, with each one separated by a horizontal line. So given that concatenation effect, if you then reply to such a post, you are in fact replying to several posts in one... which means that even it you are no longer suffering from the multiquote problem, you may still be quoting people needlessly, and thus alerting them. The only way around that is to actually edit the post to remove the quotes you don't want, as I've done here in my reply to you. But we can work on that... let's first get the multiquote problem sorted

ejmay, You are absolutely correct, I forgot to deselect, even after you just now have cautioned me.  Let me tell you something which may help members to understand a bit more about all these mistakes.  I live in an intensely agricultural remote area in Kentucky, USA.  I put a little Ivory tower at the very top of a tall hill which I own, and, on July 16, I was up there, reading, writing, and just hanging-out, when, one of these enormous oversize tractors came within just a few feet of my building, spraying what I thought to be fertilizer, however, it turned out to be Roundup.  Roundup is a horrid cocktail of multiple poisons.  The precipitate overspray burned my lungs, and made them sore, however, I noticed immediately that it spaced-me-out, slowed my mental responses, hurt my cognitive function; now, some time later, my lungs are not burning, the coughing is clearing up, however, I am still somewhat, a little, spaced-out, and, being tired, from all the stress joining this forum has induced, I am making mistakes, very sorry, I do apologize, and, I so do appreciate your noble assistance, emjay, you are a deeply good human being. Negatio.

(September 2, 2018 at 4:09 pm)negatio Wrote:

(September 2, 2018 at 3:45 pm)emjay Wrote: Cool Have you clicked 'deselect'? Since that old post is still quoted above, it looks like you haven't. You really do need to do that now, and any time in the future when you press "Reply" and see an old post that you're not replying to being quoted, also do it then, because that will indicate that you've accidentally pressed the "Quote" button.

There's also something else you need to know about, along similar lines. Like I said, if it says 'author Wrote:' at the top of any quote that it means it will alert the user in question. There's a function of the site that basically concatenates (joins together) posts if they happen too close together in time... I think it's within two hours or something. It's to stop people spamming a thread with many posts in a row; what it does in that situation is adds them to the end of the previous post, with a long horizontal line separating them. So if this has happened then though you may have posted say ten individual replies, they'll all show in one single post, with each one separated by a horizontal line. So given that concatenation effect, if you then reply to such a post, you are in fact replying to several posts in one... which means that even it you are no longer suffering from the multiquote problem, you may still be quoting people needlessly, and thus alerting them. The only way around that is to actually edit the post to remove the quotes you don't want, as I've done here in my reply to you. But we can work on that... let's first get the multiquote problem sorted

ejmay, You are absolutely correct, I forgot to deselect, even after you just now have cautioned me.  Let me tell you something which may help members to understand a bit more about all these mistakes.  I live in an intensely agricultural remote area in Kentucky, USA.  I put a little Ivory tower at the very top of a tall hill which I own, and, on July 16, I was up there, reading, writing, and just hanging-out, when, one of these enormous oversize tractors came within just a few feet of my building, spraying what I thought to be fertilizer, however, it turned out to be Roundup.  Roundup is a horrid cocktail of multiple poisons.  The precipitate overspray burned my lungs, and made them sore, however, I noticed immediately that it spaced-me-out, slowed my mental responses, hurt my cognitive function; now, some time later, my lungs are not burning, the coughing is clearing up, however, I am still somewhat, a little, spaced-out, and, being tired, from all the stress joining this forum has induced, I am making mistakes, very sorry, I do apologize, and, I so do appreciate your noble assistance, emjay, you are a deeply good human being. Negatio.

It looks like you've forgotten again You need to do it before you post your next post... we just need to see if that solves the problem before we can move on. If not for the people, think of the database ie it's absolutely filled at the moment with redundant posts because of this thread, and every single time you post again, you're adding to that redundancy and quoting (and thus alerting) more people than you need to, so it's getting annoying for them.

(September 2, 2018 at 6:48 am)negatio Wrote:

(September 2, 2018 at 3:40 am)Pandæmonium Wrote: Hmm...

My pro-tips for operating on this forum, OP. First is to accurately use the quotation function. I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this when the BB code is actually very simple and user friendly.

Not doing this is both frustrating for other members who are trying to communicate with you (responding without quoting will not alert them, and if you start cutting and moving text and not adding in additional quotation tags it stymies the flow of your post at best and makes it unreadable at worst) and, to be frank, draws suspicion.

In addition, I’m not here to tell people how to write their posts, but from my long experience moderating and posting on a wide number of forums, people who refer to themselves in the 3rd person, and write in an overly verbose and tangential fashion, are often not genuine in their attempts at discourse. Again, I’m not here to tell you how to write, but the reaction you will (continue) to get from posters is one of frustration and annoyance as people will find it very difficult to decipher what it is you’re trying to say (and that’s not due to a lack of comepetencies on their part, many of our members are very well read in a wide variety of disciplines as you’ll see from perusing previous threads). People want to talk to other members, but if it feels like they’re having a conversation with a poorly programmed chat bot, they’ll soon lose interest.

Those are my pro tips - take them or leave them.

(September 2, 2018 at 6:33 am)Losty Wrote: OP can mean original post or original poster. So they’re either referring to your first post or to you specifically.

Yes, thank you.  Why is a box with KevinM1's "I am not a troll." constantly appearing in some sort of sub-ground on my thread, from August 21st ??? Negatio.

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Quote:I can see you’re able to edit posts quite easily, and indeed utilise common forum languages and shorthand (OP is an example), so I’m not sure why you’re unable to use this

You lost me at "this", what this ?  Negatio.

(September 2, 2018 at 4:26 pm)emjay Wrote:

(September 2, 2018 at 4:09 pm)negatio Wrote: ejmay, You are absolutely correct, I forgot to deselect, even after you just now have cautioned me.  Let me tell you something which may help members to understand a bit more about all these mistakes.  I live in an intensely agricultural remote area in Kentucky, USA.  I put a little Ivory tower at the very top of a tall hill which I own, and, on July 16, I was up there, reading, writing, and just hanging-out, when, one of these enormous oversize tractors came within just a few feet of my building, spraying what I thought to be fertilizer, however, it turned out to be Roundup.  Roundup is a horrid cocktail of multiple poisons.  The precipitate overspray burned my lungs, and made them sore, however, I noticed immediately that it spaced-me-out, slowed my mental responses, hurt my cognitive function; now, some time later, my lungs are not burning, the coughing is clearing up, however, I am still somewhat, a little, spaced-out, and, being tired, from all the stress joining this forum has induced, I am making mistakes, very sorry, I do apologize, and, I so do appreciate your noble assistance, emjay, you are a deeply good human being. Negatio.

It looks like you've forgotten again You need to do it before you post your next post... we just need to see if that solves the problem before we can move on. If not for the people, think of the database ie it's absolutely filled at the moment with redundant posts because of this thread, and every single time you post again, you're adding to that redundancy and quoting (and thus alerting) more people than you need to, so it's getting annoying for them.

emjay, I am clicking on the Reply link, I am not using Quick Reply, or Quote, which is where one has to Deselect, so you are saying I just, again, sent out multiple replies, when I replied to mh.brewer just now ?  This is so insanely weird and unwarrantedly complex that I am thinking the infinite, unfathomably complex process involved in Reply, will kill what I, in spite of ignorance of the infinite considerations attendant upon struggling with  the site's AI, have actually accomplished, in having recently become a Junior Member ! I do not see a deselect option in Replying, only in Quote and Quick Replying, I think... Then, the AI is continually incorrectly changing one's spelling, further impeding the communicative quality of one's posts. Negatio.

@negatio - are you on a phone or PC? There's nothing in the forum software that should be changing the spelling of your words. Online forums are dumb. There's no artificial intelligence built into them. It's really just a series of forms that save data (posts) to a database for future retrieval. So, if anything is changing your spelling, it's some form of auto-correct that's from a different source (likely your phone, if that's what you're using).

I never use the quote/multi-quote system because it is unwieldy. I'm not sure how to clean out a multi-quote chain. Once you do have it cleared, then simply use the 'Reply' button in the future. It'll save everyone a lot of headaches.

PS - Junior Member doesn't mean anything... it simply means you've made a certain number of posts here. It doesn't convey any additional perks.

Quote:emjay, I am clicking on the Reply link, I am not using Quick Reply, or Quote, which is where one has to Deselect, so you are saying I just, again, sent out multiple replies, when I replied to mh.brewer just now ?  This is so insanely weird and unwarrantedly complex that I am thinking the infinite, unfathomably complex process involved in Reply, will kill what I, in spite of ignorance of the infinite considerations attendant upon struggling with  the site's AI, have actually accomplished, in having recently become a Junior Member ! I do not see a deselect option in Replying, only in Quote and Quick Replying, I think... Then, the AI is continually incorrectly changing one's spelling, further impeding the communicative quality of one's posts. Negatio.

umm...yeah.

Boru

(September 2, 2018 at 4:50 pm)negatio Wrote:

(September 2, 2018 at 4:26 pm)emjay Wrote: It looks like you've forgotten again You need to do it before you post your next post... we just need to see if that solves the problem before we can move on. If not for the people, think of the database ie it's absolutely filled at the moment with redundant posts because of this thread, and every single time you post again, you're adding to that redundancy and quoting (and thus alerting) more people than you need to, so it's getting annoying for them.

emjay, I am clicking on the Reply link, I am not using Quick Reply, or Quote, which is where one has to Deselect, so you are saying I just, again, sent out multiple replies, when I replied to mh.brewer just now ?  This is so insanely weird and unwarrantedly complex that I am thinking the infinite, unfathomably complex process involved in Reply, will kill what I, in spite of ignorance of the infinite considerations attendant upon struggling with  the site's AI, have actually accomplished, in having recently become a Junior Member ! I do not see a deselect option in Replying, only in Quote and Quick Replying, I think... Then, the AI is continually incorrectly changing one's spelling, further impeding the communicative quality of one's posts. Negatio.

Yes, you did just send out multiple replies again. Can you not see them in the thread after you post? All you have to do is this:

Step 1: Click 'deselect' at the bottom of the screen at the bottom of the "Quick Reply" box.
Step 2: Click "Reply" on any post you want to reply to. Never press "Quote".
Step 3: If any time in the future when you have pressed "Reply" it quotes an old post that you did not intend to quote in the edit window, then do not press "Post Reply" and instead go back to the thread, then start at step 1 again.

(September 2, 2018 at 5:03 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: @negatio - are you on a phone or PC?  There's nothing in the forum software that should be changing the spelling of your words.  Online forums are dumb.  There's no artificial intelligence built into them.  It's really just a series of forms that save data (posts) to a database for future retrieval.  So, if anything is changing your spelling, it's some form of auto-correct that's from a different source (likely your phone, if that's what you're using).

I never use the quote/multi-quote system because it is unwieldy.  I'm not sure how to clean out a multi-quote chain.  Once you do have it cleared, then simply use the 'Reply' button in the future.  It'll save everyone a lot of headaches.

PS - Junior Member doesn't mean anything... it simply means you've made a certain number of posts here.  It doesn't convey any additional perks.

My wife says I have a junior member.  Not sure if that's the same thing, tho.