(September 22, 2018 at 10:52 am)Kit Wrote:

(September 22, 2018 at 10:52 am)DodosAreDead Wrote: Why do people on here engage trolls?

For the entertainment value, of course.

Don't lie Kit.

You guys clearly engage with me because I expose your dogmaS so in order not to sink down you try to stay afloat.

That's all.  

(September 22, 2018 at 10:52 am)Kit Wrote:

(September 22, 2018 at 10:52 am)DodosAreDead Wrote: Why do people on here engage trolls?

For the entertainment value, of course.

Out of morbid curiosity?

(September 22, 2018 at 11:03 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Out of morbid curiosity?

No.  There's nothing particularly morbid about Lil' Rik and his thought processes.  He's rather mundane, despite being far out there on left field.

(September 22, 2018 at 10:29 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(September 22, 2018 at 10:06 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic...en-we-die/

Excerpts:

'The hypothesis that the brain creates consciousness, however, has vastly more evidence for it than the hypothesis that consciousness creates the brain.'

'Neuroscientists can predict human choices from brain-scanning activity before the subject is even consciously aware of the decisions made.'

'Thousands of experiments confirm the hypothesis that neurochemical processes produce subjective experiences.'

In other words, consciousness is a function of neurochemical activity that takes place in the brain.  When the brain ceases to function, consciousness can no longer exist.

In future, you should probably check what science has to say about a given topic before posting here.  It might make you look (slightly) less like a drooling imbecile.

Boru

One more fool that doesn't know that hypothesis are not evidence has spoken.  

And what about the point that ..........when the brain ceases to function, consciousness can no longer exist...........

Let me correct your writing Boru.
You should rather say..............when the brain ceases to function, consciousness can no longer stay inside the brain.........



Why the consciousness should stay one minute more inside a dead brain?
Would you stay inside the wreck of your car one minute more?

For God's sake Boru.
Can't you think properly before you come down with this sort of garbage?  

Clearly, you missed (or - what is more likely - ignored) this bit:

'Thousands of experiments confirm the hypothesis that neurochemical processes produce subjective experiences.'

An experiment which confirms an hypothesis qualifies as evidence.  What there is NO evidence for is the loopy idea that consciousness proceeds (or persists, if you like) without neurochemical processes.  Neurochemical processes have never, ever, not once, been observed to occur in a dead brain.

You're an idiot.

Boru

(September 22, 2018 at 10:55 am)Kit Wrote:

(September 22, 2018 at 10:53 am)Little Rik Wrote: Ok.
Let us forget about NDE evidence and instead rely on the fact that if there is no evidence for one belief or the other we should rely on what make more sense.
And what make more sense the fact that evolution is unstoppable until it reach a goal?
Why evolution should stop at the human level?
Million years of evolution from matter to plants to animals and then to come to a brutal stop as it turn into human?

You guys clearly can not see the light at the end of the tunnel.  
That is your problem not mine.  

And now you're confusing the consciousness with evolution.  By all means, persist on this pointless journey of yours, but don't expect me to take you seriously.

Perfect Kit.  

Here is where you show all your failing.  

By not understanding why the consciousness goes from little to high awareness as it turn from lower form of life to higher form of life then it will be impossible for you to also understand why the consciousness can not possibly come to a screeching halt with the physical death.

You are thousand miles away from the truth Kit but as the old granny said........is never too late to learn.  

(September 22, 2018 at 11:13 am)Little Rik Wrote: Perfect Kit.  

Here is where you show all your failing.  

By not understanding why the consciousness goes from little to high awareness as it turn from lower form of life to higher form of life then it will be impossible for you to also understand why the consciousness can not possibly come to a screeching halt with the physical death.

You are thousand miles away from the truth Kit but as the old granny said........is never too late to learn.  

Well, why now you're just mixing science fiction with theology, because that simply makes everything much clearer.

(September 22, 2018 at 11:13 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(September 22, 2018 at 10:29 am)Little Rik Wrote: One more fool that doesn't know that hypothesis are not evidence has spoken.  

And what about the point that ..........when the brain ceases to function, consciousness can no longer exist...........

Let me correct your writing Boru.
You should rather say..............when the brain ceases to function, consciousness can no longer stay inside the brain.........



Why the consciousness should stay one minute more inside a dead brain?
Would you stay inside the wreck of your car one minute more?

For God's sake Boru.
Can't you think properly before you come down with this sort of garbage?  

Clearly, you missed (or - what is more likely - ignored) this bit:

'Thousands of experiments confirm the hypothesis that neurochemical processes produce subjective experiences.'

An experiment which confirms an hypothesis qualifies as evidence.  What there is NO evidence for is the loopy idea that consciousness proceeds (or persists, if you like) without neurochemical processes.  Neurochemical processes have never, ever, not once, been observed to occur in a dead brain.

You're an idiot.

Boru

FOOL.  

Why there should be neurochemical processes once the consciousness has left the brain?
Do you expect a wreck of a vehicle with no driver to show any activity?

Once again you show that you know nothing about the relation between consciousness and brain-body.

Go back to school boy.  

(September 22, 2018 at 11:06 am)Kit Wrote:

(September 22, 2018 at 11:03 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Out of morbid curiosity?

No.  There's nothing particularly morbid about Lil' Rik and his thought processes.  He's rather mundane, despite being far out there on left field.

A train wreck of a “consciousness” always holds morbid fascination.

(September 22, 2018 at 11:25 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: A train wreck of a “consciousness” always holds morbid fascination.

Maybe for you. Don't be projecting your subjectivity onto me.

(September 22, 2018 at 11:16 am)Kit Wrote:

(September 22, 2018 at 11:13 am)Little Rik Wrote: Perfect Kit.  

Here is where you show all your failing.  

By not understanding why the consciousness goes from little to high awareness as it turn from lower form of life to higher form of life then it will be impossible for you to also understand why the consciousness can not possibly come to a screeching halt with the physical death.

You are thousand miles away from the truth Kit but as the old granny said........is never too late to learn.  

Well, why now you're just mixing science fiction with theology, because that simply makes everything much clearer.

I would rather leave theology with CL and science fiction with atheists.
As far as it concern me I pick what make sense and I leave the rest to fools that dream that the universe pop up as per magic.  

Have a good day anyway.