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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
October 5, 2018 at 12:56 pm
The Doctor may be smarter when it comes to medical matters.
The Dishwasher may be smarter in everything else.
It's a fucking fallacy to assume one's occupation determines one's intelligence. My sister is one of the smartest people I know, and she's an escort.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
October 5, 2018 at 12:58 pm
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(October 5, 2018 at 12:41 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: And the doctor may be wrong and the dishwasher may be right (despite your assumptions).
Sure. Hell, the dishwasher might be a genius with multiple Ph Ds and is down and out due to some other problem. But in the vast majority of cases, the doctor is smarter and better educated than the dishwasher.
Quote:Appealing to or attacking the person (or what they do for a living) is fallacious thinking.
Nope, there are reasonable assumptions that can be made based on a person's occupation. I get that you find it distasteful - I didn't say it because I was being nice you know - but don't kid yourself.
(October 5, 2018 at 12:56 pm)Divinity Wrote: The Doctor may be smarter when it comes to medical matters.
The Dishwasher may be smarter in everything else.
It's a fucking fallacy to assume one's occupation determines one's intelligence. My sister is one of the smartest people I know, and she's an escort.
Does she service more doctors or dishwashers? 
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
October 5, 2018 at 1:07 pm
(October 5, 2018 at 12:58 pm)alpha male Wrote: (October 5, 2018 at 12:41 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: And the doctor may be wrong and the dishwasher may be right (despite your assumptions).
Sure. Hell, the dishwasher might be a genius with multiple Ph Ds and is down and out due to some other problem. But in the vast majority of cases, the doctor is smarter and better educated than the dishwasher.
Quote:Appealing to or attacking the person (or what they do for a living) is fallacious thinking.
Nope, there are reasonable assumptions that can be made based on a person's occupation. I get that you find it distasteful - I didn't say it because I was being nice you know - but don't kid yourself.
Some letters after someone's name or a degree, may mean that they have demonstrated a certain amount of knowledge. But it doesn't tell you if they are wise or sometimes even if they can properly utilize that knowledge. I've met engineers that have a PHD, and they are dumber than a box of rocks. They don't have any common sense, or experience to apply that knowledge. Appealing to ones occupation is just an appeal to authority, and ad hominem. If all you are given is the education or occupation, then all you have to go on is those assumptions you mentioned. However if the dishwasher makes a better argument for the idea at hand, then it doesn't matter what their job is. As in most of the informal fallacies you are guilty of ignoring the argument, and appealing to something which is largly irrelevant, and doesn't tell you much of anything about the argument.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
October 5, 2018 at 1:13 pm
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(October 5, 2018 at 1:07 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Some letters after someone's name or a degree, may mean that they have demonstrated a certain amount of knowledge. But it doesn't tell you if they are wise or sometimes even if they can properly utilize that knowledge. I've met engineers that have a PHD, and they are dumber than a box of rocks. They don't have any common sense, or experience to apply that knowledge. Appealing to ones occupation is just an appeal to authority, and ad hominem. If all you are given is the education or occupation, then all you have to go on is those assumptions you mentioned.
Yep, and you'd make the same assumptions as me.
Quote:However if the dishwasher makes a better argument for the idea at hand, then it doesn't matter what their job is. As in most of the informal fallacies you are guilty of ignoring the argument, and appealing to something which is largly irrelevant, and doesn't tell you much of anything about the argument.
How many times do I need to point out that there wasn't an argument in the post I was responding to? We were swapping insults. Joods probably gives less of a shit about it than you do.
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October 5, 2018 at 1:21 pm
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(October 5, 2018 at 1:13 pm)alpha male Wrote: (October 5, 2018 at 1:07 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Some letters after someone's name or a degree, may mean that they have demonstrated a certain amount of knowledge. But it doesn't tell you if they are wise or sometimes even if they can properly utilize that knowledge. I've met engineers that have a PHD, and they are dumber than a box of rocks. They don't have any common sense, or experience to apply that knowledge. Appealing to ones occupation is just an appeal to authority, and ad hominem. If all you are given is the education or occupation, then all you have to go on is those assumptions you mentioned.
Yep, and you'd make the same assumptions as me.
Quote:However if the dishwasher makes a better argument for the idea at hand, then it doesn't matter what their job is. As in most of the informal fallacies you are guilty of ignoring the argument, and appealing to something which is largly irrelevant, and doesn't tell you much of anything about the argument.
How many times do I need to point out that there wasn't an argument in the post I was responding to? We were swapping insults. Joods probably gives less of a shit about it than you do.
So, stick to that..... instead of making fallacious appeals.
Or at least admit that this was not a serious rebuttal. Don't become like them!
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
October 5, 2018 at 1:29 pm
I thought it was obvious trash talk. You're the one that brought fallacies into it.
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October 5, 2018 at 1:36 pm
(October 5, 2018 at 1:29 pm)alpha male Wrote: I thought it was obvious trash talk. You're the one that brought fallacies into it.
I think that is bad trash talk....
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
October 5, 2018 at 1:36 pm
(October 5, 2018 at 1:29 pm)alpha male Wrote: I thought it was obvious trash talk. You're the one that brought fallacies into it.
I didn't attempt to use your occupation as a way to put you down or insinuate that you were stupid because of what you do for a living. THAT'S the difference.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
October 5, 2018 at 1:41 pm
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(October 5, 2018 at 1:29 pm)alpha male Wrote: I thought it was obvious trash talk. You're the one that brought fallacies into it.
Ha!
"This happened to me" = Assume guilt
GO FUCK YOURSELF ASSHOLE!
Again jackass, by that logic, since I cant remember the face or the ringleader who broke my nose, means I have no right to bring it up today.
Trump is that fucking bully. He is the asshole who would have been part of that gang and shouted with them "I WANNA POP POP POP, I WANNA SHASTA"
Yea asshole, that was a soda ad for Shasta cola back then, and that is what they all shouted when they surrounded me and the ring leader broke my nose.
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RE: Kavanaugh Can Join Thomas.
October 5, 2018 at 1:54 pm
(October 5, 2018 at 1:36 pm)Joods Wrote: I didn't attempt to use your occupation as a way to put you down or insinuate that you were stupid because of what you do for a living. THAT'S the difference.
Of course you didn't. I have a better occupation than you.
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