Get caught with weed while white and you're just a kid having some fun, caught while black...drug dealer. Highly ironic.....since the white kids are drug dealers more often by orders of magnitude.

(December 26, 2018 at 7:35 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(December 26, 2018 at 7:12 pm)bennyboy Wrote: How can we keep families together?  How can we reduce incarceration rates in black communities?

Ending the war on drugs would be a good start; they're a HUGE part of why America has the highest incarceration rate on Earth. And, of course, there's still a disproportionately higher amount of black people sent to jail for the same crime that white people are more likely to be given a slap on the wrist for. As a good example, in the 1980s, crack had higher penalties than regular cocaine (despite being the exact same chemically) for no discernible reason except it was a cheaper form that, consequently, had a higher use among poor blacks than the obscenely rich people who used cocaine in the 1970s. And even now, black people are likely to serve harsher sentences than white people for the same exact drug-related crime.

I'm very much a believer in blind justice, especially with regard to sentencing.  A jury should be given a case description-- so and so had X grams at possession, and had been apprehended Y times for the same offense, and so on.  I'm pretty sure that if Shaquanda Johnson and Eugene Goldstein are both up for sentencing, Johnson is automatically going to get harsher sentences-- even from black judges or juries.

In general, I think arbitration should only be used to minimize sentences, not to aggravate them.

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(December 26, 2018 at 7:39 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Get caught with weed while white and you're just a kid having some fun, caught while black...drug dealer.  Highly ironic.....since the white kids are drug dealers more often by orders of magnitude.

I completely agree.  Chappelle's bit about his white friend Chip is dead on, in my opinion.  "Gee officer. . . I didn't KNOW I couldn't do that."

And attire matters VERY much also: it's a class perception to some degree.  When I was a young long-haired kid with ripped jeans and a heavy metal t-shirt, I was getting jacked up pretty regularly, and treated by city police in Vancouver in ways that were clearly illegal-- involuntary room searches without a warrant, sexual comments, and so on.  As soon as I cut my hair and bought a suit, I'm pretty sure I could have walked down Main Street with my dick out and got a minor scolding.

I do not know if black people who are very well-dressed suffer as high levels of racism as kids in street clothes, but I doubt it.

But anyway, this effect is why I think early prison release programs based on sentencing variance should be blind and based purely on objective facts (amount possessed, for example), and some things which are no longer serious crimes (like pot possession) should be rewound.

No Chip...dont do it!  LOL

Fun fact...Dave Chapelle is from a nice white neighborhood and he's white-ish.

I have a ginger complexion and I spent my youth with a waxed crew cut with my button up shirt tucked into my pants, lol. I've been driven home..with drugs on me, in a cruiser. You know..so my parents didn't worry. OTOH, I'm not exactly "white" as my fellow southerners define that.

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ERBH, huh?

Don't let your PC friends see it, because they're going to be crying about cultural appropriation.

(jk that shit was funny)

My "pc friends" aren't total dicks...that's kind of the point. While you transparently bitch about black people and how the solution to a problem in the us isn't a solution from your perch in Not America....people who understand and have experienced both sides of this endemic problem of racism that we have just shake their heads at you...because, Benny..and this is key..you actually are that dick.

(December 27, 2018 at 12:51 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: My "pc friends" aren't total dicks...that's kind of the point.  While you transparently bitch about black people and how the solution to a problem in the us isn't a solution from your perch in Not America....people who understand and have experienced both sides of this endemic problem of racism that we have just shake their heads at you...because, Benny..and this is key..you actually are that dick.

Yeah, I know how you feel.  The problem is that whatever I am or am not, I understand that real problems need real solutions.  Fart sniffing doesn't provide day cares, get dads out of jail, or improve IQ scores.

Anyway, dude, you should have understood from my post that (1) jk means I was just teasing you; (2) I tracked down the video to the thing in your sig, and I thought it was very funny.

As for your PC friends not being total dicks-- well, I'd have to meet them to form an opinion for sure, but right now I'd guess that if they're you're friends, they're a lot better at sounding good in a coffee house than they are at actually doing any good for the community, black or otherwise. I'll bet they type real good, and that's about it.

I agree. Benny, you're a dick. 3 out of 5 TV doctors agree.

(December 27, 2018 at 3:01 am)bennyboy Wrote:

(December 27, 2018 at 12:51 am)Gae Bolga Wrote: My "pc friends" aren't total dicks...that's kind of the point.  While you transparently bitch about black people and how the solution to a problem in the us isn't a solution from your perch in Not America....people who understand and have experienced both sides of this endemic problem of racism that we have just shake their heads at you...because, Benny..and this is key..you actually are that dick.

Yeah, I know how you feel.  The problem is that whatever I am or am not, I understand that real problems need real solutions.  Fart sniffing doesn't provide day cares, get dads out of jail, or improve IQ scores.

Anyway, dude, you should have understood from my post that (1) jk means I was just teasing you; (2) I tracked down the video to the thing in your sig, and I thought it was very funny.

As for your PC friends not being total dicks-- well, I'd have to meet them to form an opinion for sure, but right now I'd guess that if they're you're friends, they're a lot better at sounding good in a coffee house than they are at actually doing any good for the community, black or otherwise.  I'll bet they type real good, and that's about it.

Still dismissing the reality of systemic discrimination, I see.

Anyway, who assigned you as the authority on these matters? You act like you know more than the people who have been devoting their lives to working on solutions to these problems.

(December 27, 2018 at 10:03 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I agree.  Benny, you're a dick.  3 out of 5 TV doctors agree.

No doubt.  That's why my wife ran away and my dog divorced me.  I feel the same about you.  <3

The obvious stated and replied to, then why don't you say what particular methods YOU would enact to make things more fair?  By what specific criteria would YOU tell one student he's narrowly missed his dream, and another that he's got a path to his dream because of melanin?

I was at a carwash a couple of days ago and a guy stopped and asked : " Are this guys doing a good job? They are all black". Racism in Romania for you.