(December 30, 2018 at 8:58 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 30, 2018 at 8:54 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Whew, THAT'S a relief!  I was worried that you might find it unacceptable - such rejection could only send me into a tailspin of despair from which I might never recover.

Boru

Hopefully not.  Maybe relax a bit.  I was agreeing with you, but they're not the only "Real Americans."

That's what land-grabbers and usurpers always say.

Boru

(December 30, 2018 at 8:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 30, 2018 at 8:58 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Hopefully not.  Maybe relax a bit.  I was agreeing with you, but they're not the only "Real Americans."

That's what land-grabbers and usurpers always say.

Boru

Which is what those Native Americans wouldn't have said, because it was a foreign concept to them.  They viewed the land much differently, especially in the context of land ownership.  Needless to say, much of it was unfortunate.

(December 30, 2018 at 8:40 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 30, 2018 at 7:11 am)Amarok Wrote: I said social contract not citizen 

And note the word "Part" in my original comment . Their is more to it then that. But it's a condition of being a citizen .

Fair enough, but irrelevant to the conversation.  We're defining "real American."

I imagine real america has citizens in it

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(December 30, 2018 at 9:14 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 30, 2018 at 8:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That's what land-grabbers and usurpers always say.

Boru

Which is what those Native Americans wouldn't have said, because it was a foreign concept to them.  They viewed the land much differently, especially in the context of land ownership.  Needless to say, much of it was unfortunate.

Doesn't mean the land grabbers had to come along and take it all

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(December 30, 2018 at 9:14 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(December 30, 2018 at 8:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That's what land-grabbers and usurpers always say.

Boru

Which is what those Native Americans wouldn't have said, because it was a foreign concept to them.  They viewed the land much differently, especially in the context of land ownership.  Needless to say, much of it was unfortunate.

Doesn't mean the land grabbers had to come along and take it all

(December 30, 2018 at 8:02 pm)Amarok Wrote:

(December 30, 2018 at 8:40 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Fair enough, but irrelevant to the conversation.  We're defining "real American."

I imagine real america has citizens in it

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(December 30, 2018 at 9:14 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Which is what those Native Americans wouldn't have said, because it was a foreign concept to them.  They viewed the land much differently, especially in the context of land ownership.  Needless to say, much of it was unfortunate.

Doesn't mean the land grabbers had to come along and take it all

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(December 30, 2018 at 9:14 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Which is what those Native Americans wouldn't have said, because it was a foreign concept to them.  They viewed the land much differently, especially in the context of land ownership.  Needless to say, much of it was unfortunate.

Doesn't mean the land grabbers had to come along and take it all

They didn't have to.  As I said, it was unfortunate.  Many of the Native Americans seen it as being advantageous, but the settlers had more of a "deal is a deal" approach without understanding the context of how nature was viewed.   When it became obvious that land ownership wasn't being view mutually it was a false assumption that the Native Americans were trying to violate the agreement, which of course turned to violence.  I don't think any sane person who cares about morality would disagree that the Native Americans got mucked over in all of it.

As an atheist? I can’t see anything that would bear on that after a cursory glance at the wiki page on him.

Honestly I’ve never heard of this dude.

There’s a couple other things. We could talk about my opinion of cops in general, but that has no basis in my disbelief in supernatural entities. We could talk about the things it looks like he says and does in a position of authority, which also has no basis in my disbelief of supernatural entities.

This resolute baptist guy is a creepy troll and following his posting trail the bitch is trolling hard that's for sure.

Poe.

And they're being really obvious about it.

(December 31, 2018 at 2:29 pm)Aliza Wrote: Poe.

And they're being really obvious about it.

Agreed, there's no such place as Foxborough Tennesee for a start. The dick is so dumb he'll get banned fairly soon I'm sure, the twit must think we were born yesterday or something.

(December 30, 2018 at 2:16 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I paid taxes when I was in Germany.  Does that make me a German citizen?
I paid taxes in Italy.  Does that make me an Italian citizen?
I paid taxes in France. Does that make me a French citizen?
Etc...

You don't get to pay taxes until you're an adult, child.

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(December 30, 2018 at 8:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(December 29, 2018 at 9:47 pm)Nomad Wrote: Traitors, by definition, are not good.  Clarke is a traitor [ emphasis mine ] therefore he is not a good dissenting voice, no matter what you think.

I wish people would stop throwing that word around.  Simply because Clarke is a moral troglodyte with all the compassion of a honey badger having an exceptionally bad day doesn't make him a traitor.

Boru

Any US citizen who aligns themselves with Dumbfuck and his cabal of looters is by definition a traitor.

(December 31, 2018 at 4:00 pm)Nomad Wrote:

(December 30, 2018 at 2:16 am)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I paid taxes when I was in Germany.  Does that make me a German citizen?
I paid taxes in Italy.  Does that make me an Italian citizen?
I paid taxes in France. Does that make me a French citizen?
Etc...

You don't get to pay taxes until you're an adult, child.

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(December 30, 2018 at 8:25 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I wish people would stop throwing that word around.  Simply because Clarke is a moral troglodyte with all the compassion of a honey badger having an exceptionally bad day doesn't make him a traitor.

Boru

Any US citizen who aligns themselves with Dumbfuck and his cabal of looters is by definition a traitor.

Was in all three places while I was in the U.S. Army.  Also, children can pay taxes.  Had my first job with taxable income around age 16.  Even before that I paid taxes when I bought something.