Quote:"Fossils are formed in a number of different ways, but most are formed when a plant or animal dies in a watery environment and is buried in mud and silt. Soft tissues quickly decompose leaving the hard bones or shells behind. Over time sediment builds over the top and hardens into rock. As the encased bones decay, minerals seep in replacing the organic material cell by cell in a process called "petrification." Alternatively the bones may completely decay leaving a cast of the organism. The void left behind may then fill with minerals making a stone replica of the organism. "

Funny how there's no mention of a flood, though...

Boru

(January 13, 2019 at 3:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

Quote:"Fossils are formed in a number of different ways, but most are formed when a plant or animal dies in a watery environment and is buried in mud and silt. Soft tissues quickly decompose leaving the hard bones or shells behind. Over time sediment builds over the top and hardens into rock. As the encased bones decay, minerals seep in replacing the organic material cell by cell in a process called "petrification." Alternatively the bones may completely decay leaving a cast of the organism. The void left behind may then fill with minerals making a stone replica of the organism. "

Funny how there's no mention of a flood, though...

Boru

Come on now, I know you've got to be smarter than this.

"Watery environment"
"Buried in mud and slit"

If it's watery and something is burying it, what do you suppose that could be?  You swimming with a shovel?

I'm sure there are sources that say "flooding", but do we really need to delve that deep into it?  If so, I'm sure we can.

(January 13, 2019 at 3:43 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 13, 2019 at 3:37 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Funny how there's no mention of a flood, though...

Boru

Come on now, I know you've got to be smarter than this.

"Watery environment"
"Buried in mud and slit"

If it's watery and something is burying it, what do you suppose that could be?  You swimming with a shovel?

I'm sure there are sources that say "flooding", but do we really need to delve that deep into it?  If so, I'm sure we can.

I'll happily accept any reputable citation that 'fossils are almost always the result of flooding'.

Boru

(January 13, 2019 at 3:30 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 13, 2019 at 3:00 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Citation please?

Sure.  That was my explanation of it off the top of my head, so I didn't use a source for it, but here an explanation from Science Views that states pretty much the same thing.  Here is a quote from it, but there are a few more paragraphs in the actual work.

"Fossils are formed in a number of different ways, but most are formed when a plant or animal dies in a watery environment and is buried in mud and silt. Soft tissues quickly decompose leaving the hard bones or shells behind. Over time sediment builds over the top and hardens into rock. As the encased bones decay, minerals seep in replacing the organic material cell by cell in a process called "petrification." Alternatively the bones may completely decay leaving a cast of the organism. The void left behind may then fill with minerals making a stone replica of the organism. "

Indeed, in some areas we can find fossils of ancient sea creatures on mountaintops and high elevations. But, at the time of the Flood, the earth was populated by people with technology for boatbuilding. Why are none of their fossilized boats, tools, domestic animals or human skeletons mixed with those of the ancient sea creatures?

Not to mention, why don't we ever find, say, a mosasaurus, in the same strata as a human? Did all the mosasaurus drown before people?

(January 13, 2019 at 5:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(January 13, 2019 at 3:43 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Come on now, I know you've got to be smarter than this.

"Watery environment"
"Buried in mud and slit"

If it's watery and something is burying it, what do you suppose that could be?  You swimming with a shovel?

I'm sure there are sources that say "flooding", but do we really need to delve that deep into it?  If so, I'm sure we can.

I'll happily accept any reputable citation that 'fossils are almost always the result of flooding'.

Boru

I didn't say "always"  Wake up dude.  Seriously, you constantly do this.

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(January 13, 2019 at 5:44 pm)Gwaithmir Wrote:

(January 13, 2019 at 3:30 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Sure.  That was my explanation of it off the top of my head, so I didn't use a source for it, but here an explanation from Science Views that states pretty much the same thing.  Here is a quote from it, but there are a few more paragraphs in the actual work.

"Fossils are formed in a number of different ways, but most are formed when a plant or animal dies in a watery environment and is buried in mud and silt. Soft tissues quickly decompose leaving the hard bones or shells behind. Over time sediment builds over the top and hardens into rock. As the encased bones decay, minerals seep in replacing the organic material cell by cell in a process called "petrification." Alternatively the bones may completely decay leaving a cast of the organism. The void left behind may then fill with minerals making a stone replica of the organism. "

Indeed, in some areas we can find fossils of ancient sea creatures on mountaintops and high elevations. But, at the time of the Flood, the earth was populated by people with technology for boatbuilding. Why are none of their fossilized boats, tools, domestic animals or human skeletons mixed with those of the ancient sea creatures?

Because they are?

Not a lot, but we also have different forms of mobility and our environment is often different.   That doesn't mean they can't be mixed together, but it doesn't mean it's a rule that they have to be.

(January 13, 2019 at 6:00 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 13, 2019 at 5:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I'll happily accept any reputable citation that 'fossils are almost always the result of flooding'.

Boru

I didn't say "always"  Wake up dude.  Seriously, you constantly do this.

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You said 'almost always', which was the citation I asked for.  Read more carefully, dude.  Seriously, you never do that.

Boru

(January 13, 2019 at 6:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(January 13, 2019 at 6:00 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: I didn't say "always"  Wake up dude.  Seriously, you constantly do this.

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You said 'almost always', which was the citation I asked for.  Read more carefully, dude.  Seriously, you never do that.

Boru

Almost always does not = always.


If I say "I almost always go to the park on Saturday" does it mean I go every Saturday without exception?

(January 13, 2019 at 6:16 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote:

(January 13, 2019 at 6:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: You said 'almost always', which was the citation I asked for.  Read more carefully, dude.  Seriously, you never do that.

Boru

Almost always does not = always.


If I say "I almost always go to the park on Saturday" does it mean I go every Saturday without exception?

I know, and I didn't ask you for an 'always' citation.  I'm contending that your 'almost always' claim is wrong, and I'm inviting you cite a reference.  I never claimed you said 'always'.

Boru

(January 13, 2019 at 6:16 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Almost always does not = always.


If I say "I almost always go to the park on Saturday" does it mean I go every Saturday without exception?

Nobody is confused about the meaning of "almost always" except you, Max. 

I don't know anything about the science of fossilization; when I google anything concerning floods and fossils, all that comes up is Answers in Genesis nonsense. Boru is correct. The link you provided does not support your claim:

(January 13, 2019 at 2:51 pm)T0 Th3 M4X Wrote: Fossilization is almost always a result of flooding.

There are plenty of watery environments outside of flood zones. Please give a reputable citation that fossilization is almost always the result of flooding.