Quote:There’s no guarantee values will increase: When Congress was about to enact the 1994-2004 ban on manufacture of assault weapons like the AR-15 for civilian use, demand spiked, pushing the price up by hundreds of dollars, according to the Huffington Post.
However, price spikes don’t last, as seen in a study that evaluated a two-year period after the ban was originally enacted (weapons already in existence were grandfathered in). According to the National Institute of Justice:

Quote:The research shows that the ban triggered speculative price increases and ramped-up production of the banned firearms prior to the law’s implementation, followed by a substantial postban drop in prices to levels of previous years.

This isn’t surprising. When something is relatively simple to make, like guns, supply will ultimately meet demand. If Congress ever outlaws AR-15-style rifles, like the one used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2012, reduced supply will lead to higher prices if existing weapons are grandfathered in and allowed to remain in circulation. But if Congress does not outlaw such weapons, supply will catch up with demand, making price spikes temporary.

(February 13, 2019 at 2:36 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 13, 2019 at 2:28 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Yep, paranoia works that way.

OK, now you're just being a dick. You know that guns hold their value. And you know that assault rifles are in the crosshairs. And you know that the ones that are legally owned will increase in value if they are banned. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to get that. You're not paranoid until you start burying your gold. I know a few guys who are studying up on how to bury their guns. Those guys are paranoid.

(February 13, 2019 at 2:45 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote:

Quote:There’s no guarantee values will increase: When Congress was about to enact the 1994-2004 ban on manufacture of assault weapons like the AR-15 for civilian use, demand spiked, pushing the price up by hundreds of dollars, according to the Huffington Post.
However, price spikes don’t last, as seen in a study that evaluated a two-year period after the ban was originally enacted (weapons already in existence were grandfathered in). According to the National Institute of Justice:
This isn’t surprising. When something is relatively simple to make, like guns, supply will ultimately meet demand. If Congress ever outlaws AR-15-style rifles, like the one used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in 2012, reduced supply will lead to higher prices if existing weapons are grandfathered in and allowed to remain in circulation. But if Congress does not outlaw such weapons, supply will catch up with demand, making price spikes temporary.

https://www.moneytalksnews.com/are-guns-...nvestment/

It's the grandfathering that increases the price, not the ban..and even then, it normalizes.  The whole thing is an aside, though, since the guns used in the commission of crimes are not high value guns, or guns which retain their value well.  Criminals are broke.  They use cheap guns rarely (if ever) focused on - and that's a big part of why our gun control measures keep failing.

It would be like trying to fix polio by noting that kids get polio, and kids commonly have dogs, so lets ban dogs.  Well..you know, we were on to something there, so close, but we lost it halfway through and did the dumb thing.  Start with revolvers, 38s.  Then move on to semi auto 22.  Hoover up a few 357s while we're at it.  By the point that criminals are back to trying to sneak rifles and shotguns into the convenience store we'll be well on our way to dealing with gun crime, lol.

(February 13, 2019 at 3:36 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 13, 2019 at 2:36 pm)Yonadav Wrote: OK, now you're just being a dick. You know that guns hold their value. And you know that assault rifles are in the crosshairs. And you know that the ones that are legally owned will increase in value if they are banned. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to get that. You're not paranoid until you start burying your gold. I know a few guys who are studying up on how to bury their guns. Those guys are paranoid.

You don't know the paranoiacal people I know. My cousins have a "Big Fifty" club. That's the fifty relatives with the most guns. The total just went over 2,000 guns. And that's fifty out of 1,800 that I know of.

(February 13, 2019 at 3:42 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(February 13, 2019 at 3:36 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You don't know the paranoiacal people I know. My cousins have a "Big Fifty" club. That's the fifty relatives with the most guns. The total just went over 2,000 guns. And that's fifty out of 1,800 that I know of.

Bullshit - anybody who is smart enough to be wealthy enough own 2000 guns isn' t stupid enough to tell some whackadoodle like you about it.

(February 13, 2019 at 4:04 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 13, 2019 at 3:42 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Bullshit - anybody who is smart enough to be wealthy enough own 2000 guns isn' t stupid enough to tell some whackadoodle like you about it.

C
You're doing the moron thing again. I said FIFTY PEOPLE, NOT ONE. And they brag about it. BATF and Homeland Security visit their facebook page regularly.

(February 13, 2019 at 4:04 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(February 13, 2019 at 3:42 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Bullshit - anybody who is smart enough to be wealthy enough own 2000 guns isn' t stupid enough to tell some whackadoodle like you about it.

You're doing the moron thing again. I said FIFTY PEOPLE, NOT ONE. And they brag about it. BATF and Homeland Security visit their facebook page regularly.

(February 13, 2019 at 4:11 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:

(February 13, 2019 at 4:04 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: C
You're doing the moron thing again. I said FIFTY PEOPLE, NOT ONE. And they brag about it. BATF and Homeland Security visit their facebook page regularly.

Absolute, utter bullshit.


How the fuck would they, or you know if ATF or Homeland security was on their Facebook??

You wouldn't. Government agencies don't do overt surveillance.

....

You' re just making shit up and spewing it out your ass.


Par the course.

(February 13, 2019 at 4:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 13, 2019 at 4:04 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: You're doing the moron thing again. I said FIFTY PEOPLE, NOT ONE. And they brag about it. BATF and Homeland Security visit their facebook page regularly.

Yea, sorry OLB, but plenty of nutjobs stockpile firearms and end up going postal on fac himily or co workers or society. The Vegas Hotel shooter had several himself. Money or lack of, nor class have anything to do with why a disturbed person goes postal.

Disturbed people that murder family, or neighbors, or co workers, or go into churches, or hotels or schools or bars, all have the same thing in common, access to firearms they shouldn't have had.