(February 18, 2019 at 12:40 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Brian - PISS THE FUCK OFF!!

You' re being a first class troll.


This thread was about whether I should leave a key in a fucking lock.

It was NEVER about your motherfucking daddy issues.

You know it all cunt.

Agree that you've been getting trolled by assholes in this discussion.

Well, the Lord hath spoken.

(February 18, 2019 at 12:54 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 18, 2019 at 12:40 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Brian - PISS THE FUCK OFF!!

You' re being a first class troll.


This thread was about whether I should leave a key in a fucking lock.

It was NEVER about your motherfucking daddy issues.

You know it all cunt.

Agree that you've been getting trolled by assholes in this discussion.

"Troll" is a word used by those without an argument.

He's simply pissed off because I called him out.

He wanted us to agree that a car owner who leaves their keys in the car are not responsible for a theft. He's being misleading and he knows it.

If you leave your keys in your car and it gets stolen, no, you are not responsible for the theft.

He's simply angry that I point out that while true, car companies have improved on anti theft technology. And also that cars now have seat belts and air bags. And it is still illegal to let 5 year olds drive them, and still illegal to speed, and still illegal to drink and drive, and you also cannot drive a armed tank on a public road. 

He's using this thread to convince himself he is right about firearms too.

(February 18, 2019 at 1:13 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(February 18, 2019 at 12:54 pm)Yonadav Wrote: Agree that you've been getting trolled by assholes in this discussion.

"Troll" is a word used by those without an argument.

He's simply pissed off because I called him out.

He wanted us to agree that a car owner who leaves their keys in the car are not responsible for a theft. He's being misleading and he knows it.

If you leave your keys in your car and it gets stolen, no, you are not responsible for the theft.

He's simply angry that I point out that while true, car companies have improved on anti theft technology. And also that cars now have seat belts and air bags. And it is still illegal to let 5 year olds drive them, and still illegal to speed, and still illegal to drink and drive, and you also cannot drive a armed tank on a public road. 

He's using this thread to convince himself he is right about firearms too.

Fuck you, you train wreck.

I' m pissed off because you had to come onto a thread and make it all about you and your daddy issues.

It' s too bad your dad was an idiot and shot up the house. Too bad you shit your pants, and continue to do so at each loud noise.

Get therapy.

No every thread is there for you to shit your issues upon.

Is "thuggish" your only go-to?

(February 18, 2019 at 2:24 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Is "thuggish" your only go-to?

Here's the thing. You criticized me for scolding a crazy person. That was a good point. But you keep encouraging that crazy person.

Obviously no, the owner of the car is not responsible, though legally the owner might find themselves in a sticky situation legally, depending on the specifics of how things went down. What's your point?

(February 18, 2019 at 2:26 pm)Yonadav Wrote:

(February 18, 2019 at 2:24 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Is "thuggish" your only go-to?

Here's the thing. You criticized me for scolding a crazy person. That was a good point. But you keep encouraging that crazy person.

"Crazy" is wanting less firearm deaths. Got it.

If wanting less firearm deaths makes me "Crazy"  then I am proud to call myself crazy.

The auto industry called Nader "Crazy" too. But imagine that, he was right and cars still exist.

I think I'm very responsible for many things.

A person is culpable if they cause a negative event and
(1) the act was intentional;
(2) the act and its consequences could have been controlled (i.e., the agent knew the likely consequences, the agent was not coerced, and the agent overcame hurdles to make the event happen); and
(3) the person provided no excuse or justification for the actions.

I don't think leaving your car keys accidentally in a car would cause any legal ramifications at all. Posting on a forum that you hate it and wish someone stole it, then posting that the keys are in it and to come and get it would make the owner partially culpable of the theft, but not any further consequences of the theft. If someone died from a car accident that's a separate guilty act (actus reus). While culpability would hinge around willful blindness, unless you said I wish you stole this car and ran over my wife it wouldn't reach gross negligence, IMO. Mens rea elements usually have foresight and desire attached.