Are you responsible?

[EgoDeath]

Here's the thing. You criticized me for scolding a crazy person. That was a good point. But you keep encouraging that crazy person.

"Crazy" is wanting less firearm deaths. Got it.

If wanting less firearm deaths makes me "Crazy"  then I am proud to call myself crazy.

The auto industry called Nader "Crazy" too. But imagine that, he was right and cars still exist.

So, in this analogy, you're Ralph Nader?

You legitimately have issues, dude.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Is "thuggish" your only go-to?

Here's the thing. You criticized me for scolding a crazy person. That was a good point. But you keep encouraging that crazy person.

Yep, he's fun to mock.

[Brian37]

"Crazy" is wanting less firearm deaths. Got it.

If wanting less firearm deaths makes me "Crazy"  then I am proud to call myself crazy.

The auto industry called Nader "Crazy" too. But imagine that, he was right and cars still exist.

So, in this analogy, you're Ralph Nader?

You legitimately have issues, dude.

i never said I was Ralf Nader. I only agree with his raising his voice.

Cars are safer now because of his raising his voice. There is no law mandating I be as famous as Nader to agree with him to say something is there?

Raising ones voice is how you start conversations that bring awareness to problems that need to be solved.

[tackattack]

So, in this analogy, you're Ralph Nader?

You legitimately have issues, dude.

i never said I was Ralf Nader. I only agree with his raising his voice.

Cars are safer now because of his raising his voice.

Raising ones voice is how you start conversations that bring awareness to problems that need to be solved.

No speaking your mind and actions get shit done. raising your voice just makes you the squeaky wheel that gets placated

[Brian37]

i never said I was Ralf Nader. I only agree with his raising his voice.

Cars are safer now because of his raising his voice.

Raising ones voice is how you start conversations that bring awareness to problems that need to be solved.

No speaking your mind and actions get shit done. raising your voice just makes you the squeaky wheel that gets placated

Speaking your mind isn't a patent solely owned by the famous. Those who lead movements always have far more below them whom agree with them whom help that famous person get things done. Not everyone has to be a chief to help the chief do the right thing.

[arewethereyet]

Screaming and going off topic is working well for you, Ralf.

[Yonadav]

i never said I was Ralf Nader. I only agree with his raising his voice.

Cars are safer now because of his raising his voice.

Raising ones voice is how you start conversations that bring awareness to problems that need to be solved.

No speaking your mind and actions get shit done. raising your voice just makes you the squeaky wheel that gets placated

He's completely off topic. He's been told that this isn't a gun thread over and over, and he just won't stop.

[Brian37]

Screaming and going off topic is working well for you, Ralf.

Work on your reading comprehension.

I told you in a couple posts I have seen his tactic before, and not just on the issue of firearms.

I have seen this bait and switch countless times on different topics on other social media too.

Someone will start one post on one topic, realize they are losing, then start another post trying to make it seem unrelated when it is not.

OLB wants us to agree that getting your car stolen is not your fault. He's not wrong, but the tactic is intentionally misleading for the reasons I stated in prior posts. 

Getting your car stolen still does not change technology has improved with anti theft and GPS tracking. Nor would it make speeding or drunk driving legal. Nor can you drive an armed tank on a pubic road.

He intentionally started this thread about cars to justify his stance on firearms. 

I have seen this tactic used just on religion too.

Someone will start a thread trying to sell their club, then when they see they cant get away with it, they start another thread trying to make it sound unrelated when what they are really doing is trying to create a back channel justification to their original post.

And no, I cannot read minds, so again, please stop falsely accusing me of that.

It is very possible to see the same arguments/patterns over years from different people.

[Shell B]

I mean, really. Brian is extraordinarily emotive, sure. However, whether onlinebiker intended it to be a bait and switch or not, this is a quite common analogy in the gun debate. It's not like Brian pulled the idea that this could be related out of his ass. He could be wrong, and this could be just a thread about cars. That's great, because this is a legitimate topic, but Brian's not making it up when he says he's seen this argument like a billion times. That said, I've also seen this gun thread like a billion times, and it gets reaaaallll boring, Bri.

[onlinebiker]

Aimed at Brian

Fucking enough.

Here in Michigan where I live - already the law - that if your guns are stolen and used in a crime - you are civially and criminally liable if they are used in a crime. The only exception is if they are in a locked gun safe. Nobody is disputing this. I have said numerous times I agree with this law.

So fuck you dickhead.

This was NEVER about guns.

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I mean, really. Brian is extraordinarily emotive, sure. However, whether onlinebiker intended it to be a bait and switch or not, this is a quite common analogy in the gun debate. It's not like Brian pulled the idea that this could be related out of his ass. He could be wrong, and this could be just a thread about cars. That's great, because this is a legitimate topic, but Brian's not making it up when he says he's seen this argument like a billion times. That said, I've also seen this gun thread like a billion times, and it gets reaaaallll boring, Bri.

This thread was never meant to be about guns.


It got that way because Brian and his butt- buddy turned it into one.



End of story.