So to summarise the thread:

Drich: People in the UK are self righteous douche bags for not being like Americans!
UK: Fuck off Drich.

“Cock-muppet” 😂

(April 5, 2019 at 6:00 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Atom bombs don't kill people but people kill people therefore... everybody should be allowed to own an atom bomb?

The difference - a bomb cannot be used defensively - thus by current legal definitions being in the category of destructive devices - and therefore not equatable to firearms in considering rights.

(April 5, 2019 at 11:24 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(April 5, 2019 at 6:00 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Atom bombs don't kill people but people kill people therefore... everybody should be allowed to own an atom bomb?

The difference - a bomb cannot be used defensively - thus by current legal definitions being in the category of destructive devices - and therefore not equatable to firearms in considering rights.

Of course bombs can be used defensively.  That's what land mines are for.

Boru

Firearms to me are no different than nukes. Just because we make them and because we cant get rid of them does not mean they should be in the hands of anyone that wants them. We cant get rid of all firearms anymore than we can get rid of nukes, but we damn sure should try as a species to reduce the amount we make and foster the idea that using them should not be a default position.

(April 4, 2019 at 2:54 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(April 4, 2019 at 2:49 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Indeed one could use a gun as a pogo stick, well a powerful rifle, hypotetically.

I carry a swiss army knife. The pliers are most useful.

I get so mortally tired of the nonsense that 'Guns are just tools.' When I visit gun-nut sites, they're all posing with guns. No one seems to be dressed in camouflage holding a drill or a cross cut saw.

Boru

Would adding a compass and fold-out screwdriver to the grip change anything about your opinion on firearm regulation? Would images of people in camouflage sawing things?

https://l450v.alamy.com/450v/r9000b/a-ma...r9000b.jpg

(April 5, 2019 at 12:01 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(April 4, 2019 at 2:54 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I get so mortally tired of the nonsense that 'Guns are just tools.'  When I visit gun-nut sites, they're all posing with guns.  No one seems to be dressed  in camouflage holding a drill or a cross cut saw.

Boru

Would adding a compass and fold-out screwdriver to the grip change anything about your opinion on firearm regulation? Would images of people in  camouflage sawing things?

https://l450v.alamy.com/450v/r9000b/a-ma...r9000b.jpg

Nope.

Boru

(April 4, 2019 at 11:16 pm)Amarok Wrote: "The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.".... "Accept all the Arms we don't let civilians own " 

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(April 4, 2019 at 11:12 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: My French neighbour?

Maybe ?

I'm sorry, I can't except that.

Quote:The difference - a bomb cannot be used defensively - thus by current legal definitions being in the category of destructive devices - and therefore not equatable to firearms in considering rights.

Whole nations use atom bombs defensively and deterrents are defensive .Plus you see I "Feel " threatened by my neighbor and therefore should have the right to defensively deter him with it . After everyone knows the threat of mutual destruction works ......

(April 5, 2019 at 1:09 pm)Amarok Wrote:

Quote:The difference - a bomb cannot be used defensively - thus by current legal definitions being in the category of destructive devices - and therefore not equatable to firearms in considering rights.

Whole nations use atom bombs defensively and deterrents are defensive .Plus you see I "Feel " threatened by my neighbor and therefore should have the right to defensively deter him with it . After everyone knows the threat of mutual destruction works ......

M.A.D. wasn't defensive, it was the promise of destruction visited on those who destroyed us.