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(April 4, 2019 at 1:05 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: IDK, seems like it might not actually be the "self righteously smug" stabbing people.  "God" has proven itself to be ineffective at preventing shootings or stabbings regardless.  

Doesn't seem to prevent smug self righteousness, either.

UK has some pretty strict regs on knives, but it's not a ban, and neither is this.  They're allowed to -own- the shit they can't carry in public, and if a person has a history of knife related offense and is using social media, right there in the public view, to escalate a gang rivalry....prolly a good idea to keep tabs on  them.

oh yeah? lots of choior groups doing mass shotting where you are from?

Got a problem with alter boy murder rape gangs do you?

or maybe you've seen red state (keven smith movie) where the priests and congregations are like the westbound baptist x10 and they activly seek out and kill people!

Or maybe you think it was the methodist who flew plans into the twin towers and the pentagon?!?!

Sorry sport it was a religion, just not one that has to do with God/ofB.

 as such I'd say God/ofB is quite the mass murder deterrent

You carry a knife - because you may need one to cut something.

I carry a Gerber folding carpet knife. Its got a belt clip and makes a dandy money clip.

It takes standard carpet blades - razor sharp.  I use it almost every day. I cut a bunch of plastic tubing with it today. ( maple sap line).

I would NEVER use it as a weapon.

I don' t need to.

I have a gun in the other pocket.

(April 4, 2019 at 1:08 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(April 4, 2019 at 12:58 pm)Drich Wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019...ion-orders

So the self righteous douche bags in the uk have found the old gun's don't kill people, people kill people to be true obviously. Why? because they have taken the guns away ad now the self righteously smug, still can not stand each other so rather than shot they are stabbing each other to the point legislation is being put fourth to restrict the use and who can carry one... 

again knife gun pushed out of a window it all the same it is not the tool that is the problem, people are. It is clear that pop morality can not keep the population in check lke most of you 'good people' thinks it can. therefore you all foolishly think if you remove the tools people can't can not build or wreck what they set out to do? Shame on you for being that naive.

bad people will always exist despite how enlightened you feel you are because you in your mind don't need God. great. now what of the monsters in society who do need God to keep them in check? do you think banning knives will help you? what's next sticks? hammers screw drivers? will you have all windows nail shut above the second floor as well if people start pushing other out of windows?

good luck with your knife ban douche bags.

As a resident of the uk I see the problem with knife crime as fundamentally different to gun crime, knives are useful for other things than killing such as getting into amazon parcels and cutting up food amongst other  things.
And yet we still have stringent sentences for people carrying knives and the sale of knives is strictly controlled which is mainly quite effective.

Guns on the other hand are pure killing machines and even the most prolific knifer has to get quite close to carry out their foul deed whereas, a gun arsehole can do it from a distance.
So even at its worst knife crime is less harmful than gun attacks and is harder to stop because knives be useful.

I think what Drich is doing here is trying to compare a recent problem in the uk, that is recognised as a problem, with people searching for practical solutions to a long term situation in the US which is far worse that people aren't combatting at all.


Look at how NZ treated its mass shooting for an effective way to deal with guns.

I have killed one deer in my life and it was with a knife.

My dad shot it in a lot ajecent to ours and it dropped to the ground he jumped the fence and dragged it to the edge where I grabbed it's antlers and began to pull it though then it woke up. my dad shot out the front shoulders while his front legs did not work his rears did as well as his neck and horns. I got 2/3 of him though the fence, and he took me down and we wrestled around on the ground till i had him on top with my legs wrapped around his lower half and one arm around his neck pinning it to the side. then my dad came in trying to help me the best he could but nmore or less let me have it. So i took my knife and wildly stabbed him till he stopped moving. blood everywhere.. I was 14 or 15 at the time.

I say that to say I have discharged tens of thousands of rounds and shells and never killed anything bigger than a game bird.

Gun are not for just killing is my point. As I have safly operated one and own dozens all my life. Guns are a measure of self defense that if people know you are carrying a situation will never even esecilate into a conflict if rarely a raised voice. The one time I fired a guy and he knew I did not have a gun on me I took two blows to the mouth before I could grab him and transfer his severance packge over to him via my steel toed work boots. (I got pics of his back where the cop he call on me took pics if you want to see) with a gun again never once has a raised voice. sure they where mad some got out of the office and had a fit, but to me in front of me never.

So again if you primary understanding of a gun is to kill then you have drank the coolaide my friend without a second thought.

What it is is guns scare most of you and do not like the idea of others not being intimidated by one which ultimately means those not scared of guns have potential control over you despite how much fighting experience or training you have. I could be 500 lbs and you could be a MMA champion, and if I had a gun even at 500 lbs you are subject to my will.

That is what you guys do not like.

Hate to tell you sport but now than men have even been further pussified the utility of a knife will be replaced with speciality tools and the knife will be a tool of only killing just as you see the gun now!

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(April 4, 2019 at 2:13 pm)Amarok Wrote: 1.Knives aren't as effective as a gun for mass killing if they were armies would use them as a primary weapon 

2. Knives serve another purpose . Hell even combat knives are multi purpose , And no the fact you use a weapon SPECEFICALLY DESIGNED to kill people for purpose that's not killing means nothing .

no but cars and rental trucks are. or have you already forgotten?

Mass murderers do not need guns, hell 5 well placed 5 gallon gas cans with a cell phone a hand full of relays and a good battery will the job of any gun and can potentially bring a whole building down as well.

Again the problem is not the tool but the evil men who wield those tools. Know if not a gun a knife if not a knife a club or stone. Or truck or plane or even a boat. evil men will always find a way to carry out their evil intent!

(April 5, 2019 at 4:24 pm)Drich Wrote:

(April 4, 2019 at 1:05 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: IDK, seems like it might not actually be the "self righteously smug" stabbing people.  "God" has proven itself to be ineffective at preventing shootings or stabbings regardless.  

Doesn't seem to prevent smug self righteousness, either.

UK has some pretty strict regs on knives, but it's not a ban, and neither is this.  They're allowed to -own- the shit they can't carry in public, and if a person has a history of knife related offense and is using social media, right there in the public view, to escalate a gang rivalry....prolly a good idea to keep tabs on  them.

oh yeah? lots of choior groups doing mass shotting where you are from?

Got a problem with alter boy murder rape gangs do you?

or maybe you've seen red state (keven smith movie) where the priests and congregations are like the westbound baptist x10 and they activly seek out and kill people!

Or maybe you think it was the methodist who flew plans into the twin towers and the pentagon?!?!

Sorry sport it was a religion, just not one that has to do with God/ofB.

 as such I'd say God/ofB is quite the mass murder deterrent

You do realize that the most likely terrorist in the united states is a white christian male...right? That the overwhelming majority of everyone who's ever shot anyone in the united states, are christians?

Quote:no but cars and rental trucks are. or have you already forgotten?

Once again cars and trucks have limitations guns don't as I already explained 

Quote:Mass murderers do not need guns, hell 5 well placed 5 gallon gas cans with a cell phone a hand full of relays and a good battery will the job of any gun and can potentially bring a whole building down as well.

Sigh already addressed this it comes with all the dangers and limitations of all other improvised explosives of which guns don't  

Quote:Again the problem is not the tool but the evil men who wield those tools. Know if not a gun a knife if not a knife a club or stone. Or truck or plane or even a boat. evil men will always find a way to carry out their evil intent!

Simplistically trying to chalk this down to "evil " and this isn't refutation to my point it's just preaching .

(April 4, 2019 at 2:19 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(April 4, 2019 at 12:58 pm)Drich Wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019...ion-orders

So the self righteous douche bags in the uk have found the old gun's don't kill people, people kill people to be true obviously. Why? because they have taken the guns away ad now the self righteously smug, still can not stand each other so rather than shot they are stabbing each other to the point legislation is being put fourth to restrict the use and who can carry one... 

again knife gun pushed out of a window it all the same it is not the tool that is the problem, people are. It is clear that pop morality can not keep the population in check lke most of you 'good people' thinks it can. therefore you all foolishly think if you remove the tools people can't can not build or wreck what they set out to do? Shame on you for being that naive.

bad people will always exist despite how enlightened you feel you are because you in your mind don't need God. great. now what of the monsters in society who do need God to keep them in check? do you think banning knives will help you? what's next sticks? hammers screw drivers? will you have all windows nail shut above the second floor as well if people start pushing other out of windows?

good luck with your knife ban douche bags.

You clearly didn't read the article to which you linked.  No one is calling for a 'knife ban' in the UK.  The legislation is intended to clamp down on the use of certain social media sites by gang members and by people with prior convictions for knife-related crime. In other words, it seeks to make it harder for violent CRIMINALS to carry knives. How can you sensibly object to this?

Also, please stop repeating the canard that 'they have taken the guns away'.  It's simply not true.

Boru

and you clearly do not have a english understanding of the word ban. look it up next time dumb ass before you correct someone.

You failure in comprehension is assuming the use of the word ban can only indicate a total ban which is true a ban can mean a total ban but it can also mean to suppress or in this case a partial ban/restrict use. even if it is with certain people.. it is still a ban to try and quell knife crime!

Quote:oh yeah? lots of choior groups doing mass shotting where you are from?

Got a problem with alter boy murder rape gangs do you?

or maybe you've seen red state (keven smith movie) where the priests and congregations are like the westbound baptist x10 and they activly seek out and kill people!

Or maybe you think it was the methodist who flew plans into the twin towers and the pentagon?!?!

Sorry sport it was a religion, just not one that has to do with God/ofB.

 as such I'd say God/ofB is quite the mass murder deterrent

No it's not

I wonder if these nutters ever actually think about being held accountable for their own words before the lord their god?  

Best case scenario, they get a pat on the back for effort and a comment about how they didn't -have- to be mouthbreathing idiots to be christians.

(April 4, 2019 at 2:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Do you have any figures on how many of the deaths caused by planes and vehicles are deliberate?

Boru

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle-ramming_attack

a few hundred
with maybe 1000 casul;ities or more