(May 20, 2019 at 9:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(May 20, 2019 at 1:16 am)Draconic Aiur Wrote: Also the Dems  are wussies and can't impeach because lack of motivation or intelligence. Republicans have no intelligence in my eyes.

This country will fall to shit.

As I understand it, not impeaching Trump at this stage is a pretty savvy political move.  If he were to be impeached, he'd be acquitted in the Senate, giving him a perfect opportunity to continue the poor-harassed-me line.

Boru

Fucking blind loyalty this senate has

(May 20, 2019 at 1:41 pm)Draconic Aiur Wrote:

(May 20, 2019 at 9:59 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: As I understand it, not impeaching Trump at this stage is a pretty savvy political move.  If he were to be impeached, he'd be acquitted in the Senate, giving him a perfect opportunity to continue the poor-harassed-me line.

Boru

Fucking blind loyalty this senate has

Agreed, but why would the Democrats go through the whole impeachment process merely to hand Trump a win?  Doesn't make sense.

Boru

(May 17, 2019 at 12:19 am)Fierce Wrote:

As awful as it is are we really surprised?

I hoped this was the 21 century, but after Obama was elected we went back to the 1800's.

I'm shocked to see what's happening in USA about states abortion laws and bills.
When some states are advancing onward in the path of individual liberty by legalizing marijuana for recreational use.
There are others states who want to restrict abortion or did it already. These states are advancing backward and this is not a good message for the world.

Cannabis is legal for recreational use in 10 states.
Among them there are eight blue states (California , Colorado , Maine , Massachusetts , Nevada , Oregon , Vermont , Washington) and two red state (Alaska and Michigan).
In some states this substance is illegal but it possession or / and use is not a criminal offense anymore.

Primary source about canna statute in USA : https://www.businessinsider.fr/us/legal-...tes-2018-1
Secondary source about pot statute in USA : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis#U





I'm a citizen of French Republic living in France.
Even if I'm a male living in another country than your.
I feel sad when I'm reading this kind of news because I believe abortion should be a right for all women.
I consider the right to do what you want to do with your body include the right to abort and take substances that you want even if they are dangerous.
The right to abort is more important that the right to abuse substances because make a life came is something more important in a human life than take drugs.

1.Is it legitimate to force a woman who was raped to give birth to a child ? I let you guess how it can be traumatic for a child who will discover the truth and would be seen by people around him / her as the child born from a rape and not as the child.
I let you imagine the nightmare than the woman will live if someone ask her who's the father if she haven't a partner to pretend he's the father to hide the fact she was raped because she don't want speak about it.
Even if she have a partner to hide who is the real father she would known she is lying and think to the rape each day.


2.Is it legitimate to force a woman who haven't the financial means to foster a child to give birth to a child ?
The child can be adopted but it can be traumatic for the mother and the child.

3.Is it legitimate to force a woman to give birth to a handicaped child if she haven't the mental or / and financial resources to foster the child ?
The child can be adopted but it can be traumatic for the mother and the child.
If the child isn't adopted by a family it will become a ward of the state and have a miserable life because of institutional abuse.
If the child have mental , intellectual or / and psychic disability he / she is likely to become a person under guardianship when he / she will be an adult and this not necessary to be a google expert to know adult guardianship is shit because this so-called protection don't protect the so-called incapacitated person in many cases.

(May 14, 2019 at 11:36 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:

(May 14, 2019 at 11:35 pm)Losty Wrote: Moving out of the state won’t be good enough if Roe v Wade is overturned

Which is why women have to start fighting now.

No. All people (men and women) should rise against the madness led by the Oligarch wing that has Trump as its representative. Your rights will get eaten one by one and whoever disagrees will get thrown in jail and who knows, maybe tortured too until they agree.

This wing -the Oligarch wing- employs psychopaths like Trump and MBS to lead people like cattle.

It's not about gender anymore,

(May 24, 2019 at 7:28 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:

(May 14, 2019 at 11:36 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Which is why women have to start fighting now.

No. All people (men and women) should rise against the madness led by the Oligarch wing that has Trump as its representative. Your rights will get eaten one by one and whoever disagrees will get thrown in jail and who knows, maybe tortured too until they agree.

This wing -the Oligarch wing- employs psychopaths like Trump and MBS to lead people like cattle.

It's not about gender anymore,

Abortion is concerning people of all genders.
I agree with AtlasS33 about it.

When he say yours rights will get eaten one by one.
I say today in USA abortion right is under threat.
Maybe tomorrow it would be the right to engage in a homosexual relationship.
Maybe after tomorrow it would be the right to do oral and anal sex in straight relationship.

Even if I'm a French who did never put a foot in USA.
I don't forget some time ago anal and oral sex in male to male relationship was illegal in some states.
I don't forget some time ago anal and oral sex in straight relationship was illegal in some states.
In 2003 sodomy laws were invalidated by Supreme Court of United States with Lawrence v. Texas (Full case name : John Geddes Lawrence and Tyron Garner v Texas , United States Reports : 539 U.S. 558 (Open the page 558 of United States Reports volume 539 to find the case))

This case law on Wikipedia : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas
Read the case law : https://www.loc.gov/item/usrep539558/
More about anti-sodomy laws in USA (Some of these are still in state statute even if unenforceable because of Lawrence v. Texas) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_law...ted_States

It's horrifying and symbolic of the lack of respect for women. Fuck them and fuck Christianity.

These people are in office to serve the people. We pay them to do this job. They are not serving the people. They are pushing their own twisted agendas. The contents of my uterus are not up to debate. It's none of anyone's business. I keep reading that abortion is between women and their doctors. Fuck that. Abortion is a woman's very personal and private choice.

This movement, paired with the attack on Planned Parenthood and other services that provide healthcare to an increasingly poor demographic of women is nothing short of horrifying. I have always been a bit of an optimist, so my optimist voice is telling myself that this is a wake up call that will result in real change. That these right-wing, non-majority, misogynistic pigs will be stomped out like a rogue campfire as a result of this threat.

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(May 16, 2019 at 10:03 am)Fierce Wrote: I completely expect the Supreme Court to step in and fix this, by the way.

This is a ploy to get the law to the SCOTUS now that there's a conservative majority due to Trump's two (fucking TWO) appointments. The laws are unconstitutional, of course. But put to a new Supreme Court ruling, there is an opportunity for change. Let's hope that pigfucker Kavanaugh actually has a conscience like he says he does.

(May 27, 2019 at 3:48 pm)viocjit Wrote:

(May 24, 2019 at 7:28 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: No. All people (men and women) should rise against the madness led by the Oligarch wing that has Trump as its representative. Your rights will get eaten one by one and whoever disagrees will get thrown in jail and who knows, maybe tortured too until they agree.

This wing -the Oligarch wing- employs psychopaths like Trump and MBS to lead people like cattle.

It's not about gender anymore,

Abortion is concerning people of all genders.
I agree with AtlasS33 about it.

When he say yours rights will get eaten one by one.
I say today in USA abortion right is under threat.
Maybe tomorrow it would be the right to engage in a homosexual relationship.
Maybe after tomorrow it would be the right to do oral and anal sex in straight relationship.

Even if I'm a French who did never put a foot in USA.
I don't forget some time ago anal and oral sex in male to male relationship was illegal in some states.
I don't forget some time ago anal and oral sex in straight relationship was illegal in some states.
In 2003 sodomy laws were invalidated by Supreme Court of United States with Lawrence v. Texas (Full case name : John Geddes Lawrence and Tyron Garner v Texas , United States Reports : 539 U.S. 558 (Open the page 558 of United States Reports volume 539 to find the case))

This case law on Wikipedia : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas
Read the case law : https://www.loc.gov/item/usrep539558/
More about anti-sodomy laws in USA (Some of these are still in state statute even if unenforceable because of Lawrence v. Texas) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_law...ted_States

Everybody knows by now that the ruling class -aka the Oligarchs; the holders of most of the world's wealth- do not care about your gender, color, sexual choice or religion. They only care about your economical worth to them.

Their wing is the businessmen and money-giants in every country, and these come from all colors and all genders.

Put yourself in their position. It's tricky not to treat masses of people as "mere numbers".

They squashed modern humanity and flipped it 180 degrees. They have enough money to cause very serious damage to societies in their inner fighting for interests. The crisis of the Bitcoin and the Huwawi-Trump wars are just examples.

Your gender or sexual choice or religion is a mere piece of interest being subject to the power of the dollar; whoever own more cash becomes stronger. I think your rights are being manipulated and used beyond limits.

Who would've believed that weed would become legal after generations of demonizing, or that black people would become presidents?

Here's an effective way to fight abortion

Quote:Colorado offered free birth control — and teen abortions fell by 42 percent
https://www.vox.com/2014/7/7/5877505/col...th-control

Why don't religious anti-abortionists support it and use it as realistic solution?