(July 4, 2019 at 10:31 pm)Haipule Wrote:

(July 4, 2019 at 7:59 pm)chimp3 Wrote: You seem like the kind of creep that would blubber and grovel when you wife discovered your sleezy posts.

Ladyforcamus, I want to wiggle your toes and kiss your nose, and everything in between. And own your orgasm! My wife would say DUH!

CREEP!!!

(July 5, 2019 at 4:02 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Ew, stop please.

Ok. I apologize for my P.U.I. And going way off-topic egged on by Chimp3 but he made me laugh. I should stick with the Bible I know:

May your fountain be blessed, and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth. A loving doe, a graceful deer- may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be intoxicated with her love. Proverbs 5:18-19

This was advice given to Salomon. He had how many wives? Anyway...

I'm sincerely sorry lady, you didn't deserve that and I'm a creep.

(July 8, 2019 at 11:52 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(July 3, 2019 at 10:27 am)Aegon Wrote: Science isn't man-made?

I mean to say that science isn’t a thing that we make, it’s thing that we do.

Science is the only man-made thing that attempts to systematically and proactively benchmark itself against something higher than that the very basest and most worthless of all possible standards - man’s own wishful thinking.

(July 9, 2019 at 2:06 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(July 8, 2019 at 11:52 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I mean to say that science isn’t a thing that we make, it’s thing that we do.

Science is the only man-made thing that attempts to systematically and proactively benchmark itself against something higher than that the very basest and most worthless of all possible standards - man’s own wishful thinking.

Very well said!

(July 9, 2019 at 2:06 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(July 8, 2019 at 11:52 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I mean to say that science isn’t a thing that we make, it’s thing that we do.

Science is the only man-made thing that attempts to systematically and proactively benchmark itself against something higher than that the very basest and most worthless of all possible standards - man’s own wishful thinking.

I like that.  Its self-correcting nature is what separates science from the fuzzy subjects.

Boru

(July 9, 2019 at 2:06 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(July 8, 2019 at 11:52 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I mean to say that science isn’t a thing that we make, it’s thing that we do.

Science is the only man-made thing that attempts to systematically and proactively benchmark itself against something higher than that the very basest and most worthless of all possible standards - man’s own wishful thinking.

I agree, to an extent. Though I think we glorify science a bit too much on occasion... it's impossible to avoid subjectivity when relying on any data perceived or interpreted by people. Also, real, legitimate scientists have had agendas to push and have allowed that to cloud their studies (yes, you can say "Well they weren't legitimate scientists, but then I'd push back on your definition of a scientist.) Not to mention that many scientific studies have been difficult or impossible to replicate (particularly in psychology but virtually in all fields.)

I think it's the best we got for understanding the universe we live in but sometimes the language people use has me uncomfortable, bordering on irrational worship of science.

Though, science is the method by which we are able to discover and correct things like corruption, bias, and flaws in scientific research...so, it’s got that going for it. 😉

(July 10, 2019 at 11:37 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Though, science is the method by which we are able to discover and correct things like corruption, bias, and flaws in scientific research...so, it’s got that going for it. 😉

Too meta, abort mission abort mission!

(July 10, 2019 at 10:57 am)Aegon Wrote:

(July 9, 2019 at 2:06 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Science is the only man-made thing that attempts to systematically and proactively benchmark itself against something higher than that the very basest and most worthless of all possible standards - man’s own wishful thinking.

I agree, to an extent. Though I think we glorify science a bit too much on occasion... it's impossible to avoid subjectivity when relying on any data perceived or interpreted by people. Also, real, legitimate scientists have had agendas to push and have allowed that to cloud their studies (yes, you can say "Well they weren't legitimate scientists, but then I'd push back on your definition of a scientist.) Not to mention that many scientific studies have been difficult or impossible to replicate (particularly in psychology but virtually in all fields.)

I think it's the best we got for understanding the universe we live in but sometimes the language people use has me uncomfortable, bordering on irrational worship of science.

The difference is how sincere is the demand to avoid subjectivity, and how hard one is expected to try to avoid subjectivity, as demonstrated by what controls are in place to measure the results.

(July 9, 2019 at 2:06 am)Anomalocaris Wrote:

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(July 8, 2019 at 11:52 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: I mean to say that science isn’t a thing that we make, it’s thing that we do.

Science is the only man-made thing that attempts to systematically and proactively benchmark itself against something higher than that the very basest and most worthless of all possible standards - man’s own wishful thinking.

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Sorry to ruin it for anyone-
Religion is the only man-made thing that attempts to systematically and proactively benchmark itself against something higher than that the very basest and most worthless of all possible standards - man’s own wishful thinking